post-Dawntrail even story dungeons are harder and more punishing to heal than ever

[Arohk]

Why is uptime such a big issue in story/normal dungeons? There's no enrage, you don't have to meet a DPS check, why on earth would you focus on uptime in this kind of content

If you do it wrong in easy content, you will certainly do it wrong in hard content.

[DKMR]

If you do it wrong in easy content, you will certainly do it wrong in hard content.

No, because they have different mechanics in hard content.
It's not worth learning to save the uptime in normal dungeons and then learning them again in hard content.
If it was trials then maybe, since they will have similar mechanics invovled, but for MSQ dungeons it's not that important

[Arohk]

No, because they have different mechanics in hard content.

i am not talking about mechanics, it is about playing your job properly at all times without thinking about it, "gaining muscle memory", later when it comes to hard fight you can think about optimization.

I give you an example, i see a lot of Ninja players using Doton on Bosses, Doton is an AOE ability that clealy does less damage than Raiton (Raiton = 740 , Doton = 560 potency), Doton takes a second longer to cast than raiton and you also don't get a Raiju from using it, yet people still use Doton on single enemies.

For a while now when ever i see a Ninja use Doton on a Boss, i deliberately Pull the Boss out of it in the hope they learn something from it, i have tried countless of times to tell them in chat to not use Doton on bosses and often get the response "Why do you care, it doesnt matter"

[DKMR]

i am not talking about mechanics, it is about playing your job properly at all times without thinking about it, "gaining muscle memory", later when it comes to hard fight you can think about optimization.

I give you an example, i see a lot of Ninja players using Doton on Bosses, Doton is an AOE ability that clealy does less damage than Raiton (Raiton = 740 , Doton = 560 potency), Doton takes a second longer to cast than raiton and you also don't get a Raiju from using it, yet people still use Doton on single enemies.

For a while now when ever i see a Ninja use Doton on a Boss, i deliberately Pull the Boss out of it in the hope they learn something from it, i have tried countless of times to tell them in chat to not use Doton on bosses and often get the response "Why do you care, it doesnt matter"

I think at this point maybe you can recommend them before hand and see if they want to accept you to teach them, but if they don't care then they don't care, really no use trying to force someone to learn something that would benefit them.

[EponaTBHSMH]

If you do it wrong in easy content, you will certainly do it wrong in hard content.

Well, at least according to the OP, this can no longer be considered easy content.

That said, the problem here is the mindset, you can try your best to keep uptime in this kind of content with the goal to do it in harder content, but having some awareness of the difficulty spike should make you quickly change your mind into "Ok maybe I should focus on keeping everyone and myself alive" instead of considering it a problem of overtuning, just because you can't do your dummy rotation anymore