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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    You can like the story however you like. I‘m not debating that.

    You didn‘t answer my question though just your interpretations.
    They never said the WoL‘s story is over.
    They never said DT would be Wuk Lamat‘s story.
    They said it would be akin to a vacation but not stay that way.
    They said the scions would be divided.
    Almost no material beforehand even showed or mentioned Wuk Lamat in any kind of focus more then the other Dawnservants.
    The never said we would be sidelined.
    THAT‘S what I‘m saying.

    And I tell you something else.
    If you didn‘t try to sneak an insult in your post like „we are angry to not be the center of the universe“ I never would have reacted to your comment and snarked at you.
    Common sense and understanding of the story ever since 6.1.
    You don't need anyone to tell you any of that for it to be a fairly obvious interpretation.
    They did say the story was going to be split into two parts, they did say they wanted the player to feel more on a vacation and not be so deeply involved with matters.
    It was no mystery. At all.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
    When it was stated the Hydaleyn and Zodiark arc ended, your part as Warrior of Light also ended. No one even calls you like that anymore.
    That wasn't even used as much by Endwalker. People who knew the whole story like the Scions, yeah. But a lot of others used the designation we had for that particular area. Like the tank role quests in DT you aren't the Warrior of Light. You're the Savior of Ishgard and that's how they've always recognized us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
    Being on the back burner for once is an excellent thing for worldbuilding and gives other characters a better time on screen, the WoL will have the main character's presence again in due time, but as foundations are being set?
    It's like you glossed over this thread and others that discuss Wuk Lamat. Being on the backburner is not the issue. Being almost a non-entity is.

    As for giving other characters more time on screen. People were begging for a bigger focus on Erenville and Krile, especially Krile who took such a backseat in past expansions. Yet they too get constantly pushed into the background because of Wuk Lamat.
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  4. #64
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    Pretty nice to have a raid series that's just about fighting. Eden and pandy had ok stories but 2 melodramatic stories in a row for raids was exhausting. Glad the main idea of this one is go fight in a tournament!
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  5. #65
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    Arcadion is awesome!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Pretty nice to have a raid series that's just about fighting. Eden and pandy had ok stories but 2 melodramatic stories in a row for raids was exhausting. Glad the main idea of this one is go fight in a tournament!
    This honestly. felt refreshing to just get it on and going.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
    Common sense and understanding of the story ever since 6.1.
    You don't need anyone to tell you any of that for it to be a fairly obvious interpretation.
    They did say the story was going to be split into two parts, they did say they wanted the player to feel more on a vacation and not be so deeply involved with matters.
    It was no mystery. At all.
    So you have absolutely no ground for those arguments and just use „common sense“ as a deflection.
    Common sense would dictate to expect ff14 though and not a switch in narrative style.

    There is no „fairly obvious interpretation“. There weren’t even any breadcrumbs to get to this argument.
    That’s just a cope out.

    The story being split has absolutely nothing to do with it because that was regarding the Dawnservant trial stuff and Solution 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by DreadCrow View Post
    ...I feel it's common sense to realize that she would play a major part of Dawntrail. Like, supporting her claim to the throne was the reason our party went to Tural in the first place. We were more or less being "hired" to be her muscle and getting taken to the a new place as payment. I felt this was clear in 6.55.
    Common sense would be for me what I expected.
    Her having the big focus on the first half of the story and not staying in centerstage the entire expansion.
    You can also have a person be important without shoving our character from the stage. Estinien, Alphinaud, Crystal Exarch all did those things better.

    I agree that ot was expected of us to help her with her becoming Dawnservant but I fail to see how that is in any form the same as making her the Main character 24/7.

    Again, I don‘t mind people liking the story and saying they like i as long as it’s in a civilized manner.
    If people throw shades and insults though I have a problem with that and the one I first responded to did exactly that.
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    Last edited by Voidmage; 07-19-2024 at 03:06 PM.

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    My investment in this first Arcadion tier completely eclipses my excitement over the 7.0 MSQ.
    Like, it only took the first couple of cutscenes and it felt like a breath of fresh air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
    Common sense and understanding of the story ever since 6.1.
    You don't need anyone to tell you any of that for it to be a fairly obvious interpretation.
    They did say the story was going to be split into two parts, they did say they wanted the player to feel more on a vacation and not be so deeply involved with matters.
    It was no mystery. At all.
    the common sense is that it's fairly obvious your sense of interpretation is wrong and not resonated with majority of people
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  10. #70
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    Also I just listened to the M2 and M4 fights music without SFX and HOOOLY they absolutely slap, kudos to Soken and his team because those are definitely going to be on 100% volume for progging.
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