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  1. #21
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    I always think it is utter nonsense to lock content behind story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Which should honestly clue you in on how bad the writing in this expansion was.

    Let me compare this in Anime terms. If ARR to EW was One Piece, DT is Fairy Tail.
    Oh, so they're the same quality because Fairy tale and One Piece are both pretty terrible anime. Thanks for agreeing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Oh, so they're the same quality because Fairy tale and One Piece are both pretty terrible anime. Thanks for agreeing!
    lol, calls those terrible anime (I don't even like One Piece, and Fairy Tail is terrible), but thinks the DT story is fine...
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  4. #24
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    And thanks for letting me know who I am dealing with. I mean, I should have known the moment you tried to argue that a start of a new story has to be boring.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Even when the story isn't about us, we should do more than just exist. We're not even playing the supporting role in a show, we're almost like a background extra for the majority of Wuk Lamat's journey. We occasionally get to pick an encouraging dialogue option to remind us we're still there but that's it.

    I was all onboard with not being the focus and getting sidelined as a support character. I didn't get why people were complaining about Wuk Lamat so much, until I experienced the entire MSQ myself.
    Remember when she finished the alpaca rite off screen? Lol. The very first rite and all we did is talk to people. They really should have made some kind of mini game involving catching the alpaca imo.

    And that's only one example of telling vs showing in DT or otherwise missing gameplay entirely.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Remember when she finished the alpaca rite off screen? Lol. The very first rite and all we did is talk to people.
    Well we got to pick up coca leaves too XD (because in that region yerba mate doesn't grow and the drink is mate de coca to combat altitude).

    Seriously, the EW quest had a lot of talking but it wasn't as bad as this one in terms of significance of quests, repetitiveness as someone has pointed out and pacing.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 07-19-2024 at 12:05 AM.

  7. #27
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    lol, calls those terrible anime (I don't even like One Piece, and Fairy Tail is terrible), but thinks the DT story is fine...
    Well they are, 99% of shounen is pretty terribly written. One Piece is absolutely up there as schlock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    And thanks for letting me know who I am dealing with. I mean, I should have known the moment you tried to argue that a start of a new story has to be boring.
    I never said it has to be "boring" precisely, I said that it can't be as action packed and climatic.

    Listen, that you think One Piece is good is on you.
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  8. #28
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    We did have Choreblood before, but we did about as much fetching and talking on the behalf of people during the entire expansion as we do in every DT zone. And we also had combat outside of dungeons.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Well they are, 99% of shounen is pretty terribly written. One Piece is absolutely up there as schlock.
    This story is written like a crappy shounen, but with less time spent developing characters. You can enjoy things that are crappy and still realize they are crap.
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  10. #30
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    This story is written like a crappy shounen, but with less time spent developing characters. You can enjoy things that are crappy and still realize they are crap.
    Yes, you can.

    DT is fine though.
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