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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    no you can't, because healers shouldn't be standing that close to the boss, i have to be standing further away but at the same time i can stand like even further back to avoid the puddles that take up so much room because i need to be just close enough for phlegma to make sure i'm trying to use my phlegmas and they don't overcap for too long...
    Your abilities do not have a minimum range. There is no reason why you can't stand near the boss. In fact, on this particular boss you have to stand very near the boss or you won't have enough time to dodge the AOEs. They're not "quick and snapshotting," they're telegraphed for several seconds by the boss raising his arms. You're just standing in Narnia and not giving yourself reasonable time to move. You are creating this problem for yourself.

    Everyone in this thread is trying to help you and you're brushing off their advice with "oh no I can't do that because XYZ." If you're having a massive amount of difficulty with this boss and nobody else here is, maybe you should listen to their advice.
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  2. #52
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    no you can't, because healers shouldn't be standing that close to the boss,
    There's very few fights that you can't stack with the rest of the party in the rear of the mob. Only time it's really an issue is in fights like Alex (think it eas alex) where u need to stay away from the other healer.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Your abilities do not have a minimum range. There is no reason why you can't stand near the boss. In fact, on this particular boss you have to stand very near the boss or you won't have enough time to dodge the AOEs. They're not "quick and snapshotting," they're telegraphed for several seconds by the boss raising his arms. You're just standing in Narnia and not giving yourself reasonable time to move. You are creating this problem for yourself.

    Everyone in this thread is trying to help you and you're brushing off their advice with "oh no I can't do that because XYZ." If you're having a massive amount of difficulty with this boss and nobody else here is, maybe you should listen to their advice.
    but i'm a healer, i shouldn't ever stand near a boss like ever, after the mechanic is over i could just get destroyed the next time it decides to do a cleave or some other mechanic!
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    no you can't, because healers shouldn't be standing that close to the boss, i have to be standing further away but at the same time i can stand like even further back to avoid the puddles that take up so much room because i need to be just close enough for phlegma to make sure i'm trying to use my phlegmas and they don't overcap for too long...
    I always run that mech like right behind the boss where the melees are when I run healer, there is no rule that healers HAVE to stay out of melee range, as long as it isn't a spread or something that will hit another player.

    I don't want to come off rude, but I'll say sorry in advance if this offends you.
    Do you have friends who play and teach you in FFXIV?
    I only came back to playing FFXIV in around 6.1, so not a very long term time.
    Of course people will struggle on certain parts, but I can say that I got my skill levels up fairly quickly by a friend who taught me how to play through the dungeons or raids.

    They teach me what my priorities are when I'm a healer, what I should do in occasions that happen during a raid. Like when I get a rez, my first priority is to heal myself before trying to save everyone else in cause of an AOE that happens after my 5 sec Invuln wears off.

    Or when I'm a tank, how I should pull, or easier ways to pull, to keep aggro etc.

    Or even when I'm a DPS, what time should I get up when I rez, what skills to use to mitigate.

    This is a genuine question, and this is why some of us are trying to teach you how to run the mechanics, but you seem to try to find excuses to learn them. People might come off a bit rude, but I'm sure most people in the community are trying to help, and are willing to, I've seen lots of people actively saying they will help out in the few threads that are people complaining about the mechs, as long as you ask.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Healers should always be in melee range unless mechanics force them out

    Nobody should be in narnia because they are a ranged
    but if you get too close, how do you not just die if the boss decides to do a cleave after the next autoattack on the tank after the mechanic ends?
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  6. #56
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    but if you get too close, how do you not just die if the boss decides to do a cleave after the next autoattack on the tank after the mechanic ends?
    Stand with the melee, not with the tank

    Untelegraphed chariot cleaves aren’t a thing in this game
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    but i'm a healer, i shouldn't ever stand near a boss like ever, after the mechanic is over i could just get destroyed the next time it decides to do a cleave or some other mechanic!
    Alright, this has to be a troll account. I'm out.
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  8. #58
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    Silmeia Sylila'vel
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    C-can I just confirm that this isn't a troll post? Your join date is 2014 and if I were to go by that, you've played for a decade, and the video you've posted sort of looks very forced into making bad decisions. So far, you've evaded answering absolutely everything by cooking up the lamest excuses.

    You've completed InnoEX before which is harder than most dungeons and even Origenics which is making me suspicious as heck.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    but i'm a healer, i shouldn't ever stand near a boss like ever, after the mechanic is over i could just get destroyed the next time it decides to do a cleave or some other mechanic!
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    Well RIP me for trying to help or give out advices if it is a troll account lol.
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