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  1. #1
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    Alklios's Avatar
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    Aelfred Sigmundsson
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    Dark Knight Lv 60

    Ping Pong Ball Death Design for bosses lately. Up, down, up, down.

    When mechanics are gotten down the boss fights are fun and engaging I find about 90% of the time...

    My tank can take a mistake or 2

    But if I do get hit once on my RDM, 80% of my health is gone and I'm landed with a DoT. And can die to one tick of 30k... as the healers are already gimped trying to rez alot of people or pumping throughput... this is starting to sound like a savage at this point.

    So I can die once... but then I die again... and again... and again.

    Because mechanics are constantly resolving for up to 2 minutes straight on some boss/trial fights, there are constant hazards coming down on me that some mix of being animation locked for 3.5s or 5s invuln being just short enough to get splat for 70% of my hp that a rez sick healer can't get up kills me again.

    IN ADDITION:
    I can now be killed while locked in rez animation and die again with no I-Frames.

    There's so much mess/hazards happening at once it leads to stimulus overload.

    Or I am rezzed into a myriad of AoE field drop downs and Healer big CD's are down and just get splat because it takes longer than my I-Frames to run out of them.

    The 2-minute long constant resolving of danger needs to be trimmed. Constant AoE threats and hazards, as well as short I-frames or NONE AT ALL on being rezzed is BS because it's already crippling to have no MP as red mage to help rez once I am rezzed.

    I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CASUAL DIFFICULTY SHOULD BE BASED off of sweaty raiders and and people having done the trial/raid/dungeon 50 TIMES or moremidways into Xpac.

    I get it, I was there once in ICC, 15 years ago and sweaty Arena playing wanting to be challenged or be the best

    But I'm old and work overtime w/ dependents. I can get stimulus overload or be too tired to sweat out a fight. I already don't do savage/ultimate for a reason.

    Chill, this is casual mode.
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    Last edited by Alklios; 07-18-2024 at 03:45 AM.

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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    I can now be killed while locked in rez animation and die again with no I-Frames.
    You have 5 seconds immunity after a rezz which is enough time for a healer to get you back up, unless you use any skills/talents,

    I suggest you learn the basics of the game before you come back and complain again about easy content.
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    Can you name a singular mechanic in mandatory story content where you get for 80% of your health at the iLevel the game gives you for free that then also applies a dot that kills you for the remaining 20%?

    Not hyperbole, name one specific example.
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    This kinda sounds like a healer problem too. It’s quite easy to get someone from 20% back to at least 80%, if you’re a Scholar you can just do lolcogitation then throw Adloquium for the shield. I feel like healers these days are far too quick to give up on someone and let them die, either because ‘muh deeps’ or some cruel ‘it’s their own fault why should I help them’ mentality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    You have 5 seconds immunity after a rezz which is enough time for a healer to get you back up, unless you use any skills/talents,

    I suggest you learn the basics of the game before you come back and complain again about easy content.
    Lol okay kid, already out here with "ur bad".

    This is not enough time for healers with rez sickness and 10% mana who are suffering party wide DoTs

    And there is now content this Xpac where I get hit for 72k while I'm mid rez animation and I'm not going to spoiler it just for your, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivahoja View Post
    Can you name a singular mechanic in mandatory story content where you get for 80% of your health at the iLevel the game gives you for free that then also applies a dot that kills you for the remaining 20%?

    Not hyperbole, name one specific example.
    Replying the example is spoiler atm. And the thread is about CASUAL but just msq content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    This kinda sounds like a healer problem too. It’s quite easy to get someone from 20% back to at least 80%, if you’re a Scholar you can just do lolcogitation then throw Adloquium for the shield. I feel like healers these days are far too quick to give up on someone and let them die, either because ‘muh deeps’ or some cruel ‘it’s their own fault why should I help them’ mentality
    It's about new fights that are entirely based on punishing you for lack of knowledge, not lack of skills.

    Atm there's bosses that you don't have a second longer to wait to get in position before punish and the job is ridiculously hard for healers now.

    I get mad when I can't support healers as RDM by getting spawn killed either by

    - I-frame rez ignoring damage

    - Drop down selected on me while I'm animation locked going to resolve after i-frames run out OR healers are struggling

    It's stupid to punish a death with multiple deaths UNLESS healers are doing perfect
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    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Smily Kweh
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    1) this is normal raids, not story content, and is always ment to be challenging and optional. I am also a rdm and single hit does not take me down to 20% health, it takes me to about 45%-55%, so you either aren't i690/700 which with how easy tomes are to get and how cheap the gear is its easy to be. if you are min ilvl or close to it for the fight, you should expect this cause at that lvl this happens in even dungeons, if you are min ilvl as it has always been this way. If you are fully geared form last expac you are over the min/suggested ilvl until the 97 dungeon. In the 99 dungeon u can tell who hasn't upgraded any gear by how they can barely survive a raid wide unmitigated. The only difference is the dots.

    2) you aren't using food which you should be, even from last expac which is cheap, even if its purely for the vitality. You can eve use vit/tenacity food to help u manage getting hit this is why they are constantly giving you free nq food as you quest through the game. Normal raids are still designed with food in mind. Just like people who show up to EX's without food, when the fight is designed with food in mind. I always use food just incase I get hit. I agree that these dots are are stronger than they should though. However what you said about damage received historically in this game is not accurate.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 07-18-2024 at 01:15 AM.

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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    Lol okay kid, already out here with "ur bad".

    This is not enough time for healers with rez sickness and 10% mana who are suffering party wide DoTs

    And there is now content this Xpac where I get hit for 72k while I'm mid rez animation and I'm not going to spoiler it just for your, sorry.
    Dude come on, you had a good well written criticism and then you reply with the 'kid' response to someone else? You lost me at that... sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    Replying the example is spoiler atm. And the thread is about CASUAL but just msq content
    So, you can't. Until you can even make a clear case instead of hyperbole, don't bother.

    The MSQ is advertised as and intended to be doable for everyone. It is. You can make countless mistakes and live, you can muddle through with help from others, for the vast majority of duties you can just follow the trusts. Non-MSQ content has no such purpose or restrictions.

    You are falsely equating CASUAL with "I want a Visual Novel with a chat client." Grow up. Some people want a game. With actual gameplay. Not everyone has the time to grind and learn mechanics required for high-end content such as Extreme/Savage/Ult. These people had NOTHING to do previous to Dawntrail because content was either hard high-end content that requires bigger time investment, or you could afk through all of it and fall asleep and clear. Now the game actually has casual content. You don't like the Normal Raids? Too hard for your wittle fingies? Then don't do them. They're optional content.

    And might I add, outside of EX or higher difficulty, nothing in this game is harder or more punishing or harder to mechanically execute than any other Final Fantasy game, or any other MMO game, or any other combat-centric game. You are buying and paying for a product that has three points of reference, each with decades worth of example, and it's exceeding none of them in terms of demand to the player, yet here you are and cry that the game doesn't cater to your unwillingness to engage with it. As a "working adult with no time" I am sure you can comprehend the concept that you don't just get everything handed to you. If you want a game that doesn't involve any sort of pressure in terms of timing or pattern recognition or recognizing your mistakes and adapting, then play one of the countless games that don't ask these things. There's your options.

    I guarantee you if you spent the 10 minutes it took you write out your OP and then read my post on learning the basics (You had 90 levels and 600+ hours worth of MSQ to learn the basics btw), you'd not have any issues until you step into something like Bozja raids.
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    Last edited by Vivahoja; 07-18-2024 at 01:27 AM.

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