Quote Originally Posted by Papayatar View Post
I liked Bozja, didn’t like Eureka, I don’t mind grinding stuff, weekly/daily grind is fine for me imo. But I’d honestly prefer relic stuff not tied to Eureka/Bozja content. Or just have more alternate routes to fully do the weapon without it. So you can do one or the other or both. I think Bozja did a little bit of that? But I did it at launch and with all the group content so IDK the extent of the split/alternate grind.

Manderville relic was fine until it got tied to poetics, but if you want all the weapons that’s the easiest one.
The thing I think people forget about the Manderville grind is it's very similar to the HW grind, they just consolidated all the items like sand into just one purchase. That tome grind is still 90% poetics dumping to buy items.
I think people misunderstand what people say, it's not that you CAN do it in the FO zone, it's that you MUST do it in the FO zone and must progress that zone to unlock the next steps. Also as mentioned the Timeworn step in Shadowbringers where the Bozja version of the step is way easier than outside by a massive margin. I did it entirely in POTD solo and it was weeks before I got enough RNG drops for it compared to a guaranteed drop in Bozja.
Were they to make it so that you could entirely progress inside or outside the zone and it was comparable in completion time and effort then I think people wouldn't be upset about it. However I think some FO players would be upset that less people would play their zones due to not being forced to enter the zone for the rewards.