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    Aurumis's Avatar
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    N'oah Vestalia
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NiceNox View Post
    Asahi is dead, like, dead as hell dead, unless the next expansion makes us adventure into the abyss or Aetherial sea to refight our villains. Honestly, that does sound kinda cool, to interact with the villains we have slain in the past, seeing them and talking to them again.
    Except Zenos, pls. I don't want him to try to gaslight my WoL again that we are "friends".
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    PaleYonder's Avatar
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    Lio Diateles
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    Phantom
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurumis View Post
    Except Zenos, pls. I don't want him to try to gaslight my WoL again that we are "friends".
    I would say, just like the game does about Wuk Lamat, but funny thing is, in Stormblood Zenos asked if we wanted to be friends, and we could choose to accept or not. We got more agency there.
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleYonder View Post
    I would say, just like the game does about Wuk Lamat, but funny thing is, in Stormblood Zenos asked if we wanted to be friends, and we could choose to accept or not. We got more agency there.
    I always think about this. I started as a Zenos hater, "Who is this guy who just wiped Rhalgr's and walks away like an edgelord, WTF?" and ended the story as a Zenos enjoyer. At the end of SB, this guy is just in it for the thrill. Politics, don't care. Morals, don't care. Long term plans, don't care. Garlemald, don't care. Eorzea, don't care. Just fights. And you know what? I respect it. I respect that Zenos commits to the bit, and is absolutely unrepentant about it. Then he comes back and I'm like, "Okay, are you going to change now that you've escaped death? " NOPE. Consistent even after death.

    What is Zenos doing? Either finding out a way to fight us, or preparing the stage for us TO fight later. I was absolutely on board with this idiot. Zenos is a GAMEPLAY FIRST ENJOYER, just like me. And I was given the option to say, "You know what? Yeah, we're sorta kindred spirits. I only feel alive when the chips are down and the stakes are high and the fire's hot, I understand what you're talking about." And then FOUR YEARS LATER, say "Hey, yeah, we have to fight, but in truth, I've been waiting to kick your ass. Not for the world, but FOR ME! RAAAAAA"

    I can't bring myself to hate the dude.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 07-16-2024 at 12:58 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurumis View Post
    Except Zenos, pls. I don't want him to try to gaslight my WoL again that we are "friends".
    Why would you use the word "gaslit" here though? The narrative gave player full agency on whether we want to agree with Zenos or return his feeling. Very unlike Wuk Lamat where we don't have a say of becoming her dearest friend, because even when we're given the option to say no, other NPC will insert for us.
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    Barachim Vandal
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurumis View Post
    Except Zenos, pls. I don't want him to try to gaslight my WoL again that we are "friends".
    The fact that a stalker felt less suffocating than Wuk "I wanna be Dawnservant, dattebayo!" Lamat is kinda hilarious.
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