Lyse vs. Wuk Lamat

[Havenchild]

It's weird that people take Lyse as not a joke character all of a sudden, when we had what 2+ years of her being comedic relief and a joke for a origin, then we repackaged her into an arguably troubled "oh we can just solve it forehead".

Sorry but the first intro to Lyse starts with Yda and we need to stop pretending like we can forget that she was a joke character for quite a long time just cause its convenient. In that respect, her (in her Yda faze) and Wuk were comparable, if not almost a similar archetype outside of the "family / papa" stuff.

Wuk Lamat in her first 7 months of introduction is far superior to Lyse in the way she was handled even after 3+ years of development of the character and anyone saying otherwise is ridiculously capping considering to this day most people still think Lyse was handled terribly (even when they improved her in the 4.X patches). What Wuk needs right now, is a bigger challenge philosophically, something that power of friendship can't outright solve. They could have had it with Sphene maybe but that has passed, needs to be something else now.