Feedback: Dawntrail MSQ dungeon difficulty

[Akonyl]

I am admittedly an older gamer. My days of hardcore mythic/savage raiding are behind me, in part because I recognize that I just can't keep up with the increasing pace of fight mechanics. I'm completely capable of learning and reacting to mechanics, but there needs to be time to react. By the time you see the telegraph on the ground in these fights, it's already too late to get to where you need to be.

It sounds like the issue here is you're assuming that the split-second aoe flashes here are meant to be dodged with hardcore gamer twitch-react skills, when they're not at all. When you see a split-second aoe indicator flash like boss 1 of Alexandria, you should take it as a sign that there's something else you're supposed to be paying attention to to tell you where to go, because indicators like that are always just meant as a way to show you where the range of the attack is in case you get hit, so you can learn where the edges of the aoe actually are.

"When you see the telegraph, it's already too late" is the point, you're supposed to already be in position to dodge the aoe before it shows up. Stand on the donuts before they explode, and stand diagonal of the plus signs before they explode. When they do, move into position for the next one. It's a learning mechanic, not a reaction one.

[Bearskjold]

It sounds like the issue here is you're assuming that the split-second aoe flashes here are meant to be dodged with hardcore gamer twitch-react skills, when they're not at all. When you see a split-second aoe indicator flash like boss 1 of Alexandria, you should take it as a sign that there's something else you're supposed to be paying attention to to tell you where to go, because indicators like that are always just meant as a way to show you where the range of the attack is in case you get hit, so you can learn where the edges of the aoe actually are.

"When you see the telegraph, it's already too late" is the point, you're supposed to already be in position to dodge the aoe before it shows up. Stand on the donuts before they explode, and stand diagonal of the plus signs before they explode. When they do, move into position for the next one. It's a learning mechanic, not a reaction one.

That was one specific example, and even that has little margin for error. Fights where you are looking for some subtle move the boss is making or difference between one lightning orb and another are much harder to figure out in time to be useful, and heaven forbid you have to look down at your bars for any reason at the wrong time. And like others have mentioned, there are several fights where there is literally so much ground clutter/lights effects that it's almost impossible to even make heads or tails of what's going on at your feet. I have no problem with wiping to new content while learning, but it's difficult to figure things out when there's nothing obvious to learn from and mistakes are swiftly punished.