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  1. #31
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    Malthir's Avatar
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by loosie View Post
    If we're going to talk gameplay, in reality all you actually have to do to be an effective tank is stand still and mash your AoE combo until everything is dead while the rest of the party gathers mobs. You're not unable to do that, and the only reason you choose to stop tanking is because you feel slighted, which there is absolutely no reason to.
    Tell me you've never played Drk without telling me, EVERY pull is a fight to survive, sure if you're a warrior who give a crap they don't even need a party to do content. However for Drks in particular, the larger the pull the higher the risk.

    However even without Drks being in the state they are, I am doing my job I'm tanking the mobs I pulled. I would never say a tank should just AFK and wipe the whole party, that's petty. What I'm saying is, if I pulled 3 and I'm fighting 3, if you then decide you want more mobs, and you couldn't careless about the resources I've burnt so don't have the mit to deal with this right now, you're dealing with them till I'm ready to pick them up, if you die because of that, that's on you.
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    Last edited by Malthir; 07-10-2024 at 09:34 PM.

  2. #32
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    Revash's Avatar
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    Character
    Lynlia Crux
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    In WoW where there are skipable trash packs. The philosophy "You pull it, you tank it" is more prevalent. Here where its wall to wall and you are bound to pull that trash anyway, doesn't matter much.
    The only time when I let the DPS "have it" is when the DPS outright pulls a pack or two before I can even touch them with my aoe and starts kitting around like headless chickens then I won't play their "catch the mouse" game and let them...have it.
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  3. #33
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Dear Boy
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    However for Drks in particular, the larger the pull the higher the risk.
    Risk of what exactly? I haven't ever had such a problem when I run dungeons on DRK.
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  4. #34
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    Kennar's Avatar
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    Kennar Stonebreaker
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Why are there two threads about this on the front page, and one front-and-center on the tank forum? If you are a tank and you are not Number 1 on the aggro table, then you are not doing your job. If you're a DPS or healer and you are not bringing hate to the tank so he can pull it off of you, then you are not doing your job. This isn't new. Do your damn job.

    And stop threatening to report everybody for every little infraction or mistake. Do you call the cops when someone makes a right turn in front you without signaling first? No (though I get the feeling some of you would). Move on. God, I feel like an old man yelling at clouds.
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  5. #35
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    Tell me you've never played Drk without telling me, EVERY pull is a fight to survive, sure if you're a warrior who give a crap they don't even need a party to do content. However for Drks in particular, the larger the pull the higher the risk.

    However even without Drks being in the state they are, I am doing my job I'm tanking the mobs I pulled. I would never say a tank should just AFK and wipe the whole party, that's petty. What I'm saying is, if I pulled 3 and I'm fighting 3, if you then decide you want more mobs, and you couldn't careless about the resources I've burnt so don't have the mit to deal with this right now, you're dealing with them till I'm ready to pick them up, if you die because of that, that's on you.
    The only problem you'll have as drk is if the group is doing low dps which it will when you intentionally let someone die. All you are doing is self sabotage lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  6. #36
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    Katarina Malaguld
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    I doubt that attacking a mob is against the terms of service, otherwise virtually anyone who has ever cleared Sastasha would need to be banned from the game. The You tank, You pull mentality is the worst mindset in the game. It is so inexplicably stupid that I can't even find the right words for it. Like you are in a roulette and all you have to do is just press the same few buttons for 15 minutes straight and you get your reward. To burst into some narcissistic rage because the DPS knows the dungeon better is just insane. Usually I just try to get the tank kicked, but it doesn't work when there is loot (another flawless execution by SE)
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    Fishing is my religion and Lancetfish is my Satan.
    You don't have to spend months telling the world that you aren't gonna play that role.

  7. #37
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    Lynaval's Avatar
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    Character
    Sanae Rosethorn
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    Sagittarius
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    You spank, you tank. That is and has always been the rule. Simple as that.
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  8. #38
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Dear Boy
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kennar View Post
    Why are there two threads about this on the front page.
    Well, to be fair one thread was from today and another was created 2 years ago, a certain Highlander faced poster just happened to necro it recently.
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  9. #39
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    ShariusTC's Avatar
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    Character
    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    i don't really care, but i am quite a lazy tank, if someone run first and pull mob, they better bring it back to me, or i will take it when we arrive to destination, i won't bother to pop sprint to chase after them
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  10. #40
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    MeanDragon's Avatar
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    Character
    Gariath Rhega
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I never understood the "Tank pulls" anyway. The games I played before this, usually the ranged damage dealer would grab the mobs and bring them back to the tank. But it is what it is in this game.

    If you are going to pull mobs, please just bring them back to the tank's AOE so they can get the aggro off of you. I personally don't like dragging a pack of mobs around the room chasing things.

    Tanks, if you feel like the healer can't keep up and you are using your mits too fast, just say something like "Hey, I am not able to keep up with these pulls can we slow down, please?" Then if they decide to keep doing it, vote kick.

    And the YPYT crowd, if you are going stop playing over someone pulling mobs for you, just leave the duty so they can get someone else to help them.

    Most of us are adults here. Maybe, it is time we acted like it.
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