You pull you tank question.

[CamuiKushi]

As a tank, if healers or DPS want to run ahead and collect mobs for me, I welcome it. I'm there to play the game, not to pretend to be more important than I really am.

This is my attitude as well TBH. So long as they come to me so I can grab aggro without struggling, I don't care. Makes my job easier, if anything.

[Supersnow845]

I just don’t see the benefit of YPYT, tanks literally generate 10* agro for their attacks (20* on their ranged attacks)

If someone else pulls then just do one AOE and you have agro again

[Larirawiel]

In FF14 "you pull, you tank" is totally stupid. Since it is very easy to get the aggro back. You push one button and you are done. The "you pull, you tank"-thing comes from other games, where it is not easy for tanks to get the aggro back.



Cheers

[ryouma17]

there are people who still do YPYT? sounds like you were unlucky i havent gotten any groups like that since the WoW refugees left, all my dawntrail dungeons have been smooth so far

[NailBach]

As a DRK playing the new dungeons get's a bit weird if for example a PIC decides to pull, they generate so much aggro at the start of the pull that it's sometimes hard to get it of them in time. Otherwise i don't really care. You bring the mobs to me, i pick them up.

[Eluvyel]

It you want to pull, play tank.

You pull you tank! /no question.

You're violating two different rules of the ToS doing that. Lethargic Play and MPK. One day it'll be a report too many.

[Malthir]

Okay but then like... why did the tank queue at all then? If they're not tanking, then they should leave. DPS will still be DPSing if they pull and Healers will heal when necessary if they pull. A tank not tanking should leave as they're not doing what they queued for.

I put this in the other thread discussing this but I'll put it here for you too. Dps generally don't pay attention to the group as a whole. I've tanked since ARR. In the current state of the game I start with wall to wall, if the group is struggling as in I'm having to pop living dead because the healer forgot he was a healer, from then on it's small pulls for this group I can't trust them to keep my ass alive. If you're not the person getting hit, you're not the person who gets to decide how many people get to hit.

You're violating two different rules of the ToS doing that. Lethargic Play and MPK. One day it'll be a report too many.

One could argue the DPS are violating terms by pulling. Disruptive play.

[loosie]

One could argue the DPS are violating terms by pulling. Disruptive play.

If it's explicitly the tank's job to pull but isn't pulling, isn't that being disruptive?

[Nestama]

And the odds of wiping in a dungeon pull are what? Extremely low in level 50/60/70/80/90/100 content from what I've experienced anyway. Levelling not included because everyone knows those pulls can be spicy (except in DT it seems).

Living Dead should be used as a CD anyway and that could be what the Healer is counting on if you're running DRK.

[Gunz_Zbestest]

In FF14 "you pull, you tank" is totally stupid. Since it is very easy to get the aggro back. You push one button and you are done. The "you pull, you tank"-thing comes from other games, where it is not easy for tanks to get the aggro back.



Cheers

It might have been a relevant statement to make like 3 expansions ago when aggro was...let's not say broken, but required higher dps or a blm could easily rip one or two away.
These days, if a dps runs around a corner and grabs mobs for me because I didn't see the door? Bring them over here friend, throw that wood on the pile.