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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Sadly, this comment is perfectly relevant on these forums as well, except the ones being spoken of would be those of the negative echo chamber here. As another poster just said:



    Trying be positive on these forums and talking about how you like the game and watch the bitter cabal descend on you.



    Perfect case in point for the above (And to the person I'm quoting, to spell it out for you, the person you're responding to was pointing out that hearing negative takes from people who have been negative for awhile just doesn't really mean anything. If people who have always been positive about the game started going negative, however, it would lend the criticism more validity.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    The writing in dawntrail was good. I get the feeling people who didn't like it can only appreciate the parts of literature when things are coming to a climax. world-building, character development over time, these things are still good parts of stories.
    You can do those things and not have them be massive infodumps like "click on pillar, learn about Turali history". You can also use themes like "friendship is important" or "understanding different people is the key to living in harmony" without constantly beating the reader/viewer/player over the head with them.

    Speaking of literature, one of my biggest gripes with DT is that it keeps telling me things happened but never shows them. Things that should have been actual cutscenes instead of "random barely-important NPC does basic emote, pan to second random barely-important NPC who does basic emote".
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If they fear speaking up, then they need to grow a backbone as an adult. While there are some very vocal people who frown on criticisms of the game, most are adults that don't have a problem with opposing opinions.

    No one should let those who are intolerant live rent free in their head.
    Can you tell silent majority in game to grow a backbone and speak up like you did in your reply?

    We have self-appointed representatives of silent majority who keep using them as shield to deflect any criticisms.
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  4. #114
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    meanwhile the streamer i watch is completely satisfied without any complains. and many of their watchers agree... i do not.

    but there are people who fully enjoyed the dt story without any criticism
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranni View Post
    Your response displays a complete lack of empathy. Not everyone is an alpha type that can withstand an angry mob of players ready to crucify anyone daring to criticize the game.

    Zepla's video gave these people a voice and showed them they were not alone in how they felt about the game.
    It's not a lack of empathy. I was them in the past.

    Fortunately, I had someone that showed me that there was nothing to fear if I stood up for myself and my opinions. That we do have ways to deal with those who get enraged by those that express a dissenting opinion. That they aren't worth the headspace that could be used for better purposes than worrying about what a waste of human being is going to say.

    I appreciated the blunt honestly. It might have been a difficult road at first but it was far better for me than those who would pat me on the head and sugarcoat things while doing nothing to support me in improving my circumstances.

    No one should fear expressing their opinion whether popular or unpopular.
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  6. #116
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    Honest question becuase this is something I have never fully understood but why should the playerbase care that content creator likes/dislikes something about the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyclaw726 View Post
    Honest question becuase this is something I have never fully understood but why should the playerbase care that content creator likes/dislikes something about the game?
    You don't understand the role of public figures in society and why people care about them at least on a superficial level? Wow you must be sheltered. That's not unique to any game even, its a staple of humanity in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    The writing in dawntrail was good. I get the feeling people who didn't like it can only appreciate the parts of literature when things are coming to a climax. world-building, character development over time, these things are still good parts of stories.
    I thought so too at first before i actually finished the story.

    BUT now i can say the world building is good, character development is BAD and the climax is THE WORST
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You don't understand the role of public figures in society and why people care about them at least on a superficial level? Wow you must be sheltered. That's not unique to any game even, its a staple of humanity in general.
    Bit presumptuous of you to assume I must be sheltered because I don't understand why a youtuber not liking the writing of a video game is important news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's not a lack of empathy.
    You may not feel this way or be aware of that, but that is the way your post came across.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No one should fear expressing their opinion whether popular or unpopular.
    In principle, I do agree with your statement, I think everyone should build the courage to stand up for themselves, voice their opinions, and have the resilience to do so in a potentially hostile environment that the mob mentality undoubtedly is. And in a perfect world, they would.

    However, that is not the reality. It's against human nature to dive head-first into a conflict where you know upfront you will be outnumbered, outyelled, and likely personally attacked for having what you think is an unpopular opinion. So people don't. It's an unrealistic expectation for the general population to do so.
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