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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by White_Devil View Post
    We really shouldn't be taking the words of ecelebrities as gospel because our talking heads are fundamentally unreliable compared to forming our own opinions as individuals.

    Zepla's been punching down on Endwalker because at the time everyone was making 'I QUIT' videos left and right and it seemed like the hot new thing to get in on, she's also been trying to imitate Asmongold since he pretty much dipped out when people wouldn't let him do his own thing.
    As another example, Arthars doesn't give a damn about FFXIV's story or anything outside the realm of hardcore content, yet he's going on twitter and defending DT MSQ because everyone else is saying it's bad.
    We have a grifter through and through weighing his opinion on DT MSQ and qqing about it being 'woke' despite the fact that he doesn't play.

    All of these people care only about your clicks, they want a good harvest for their engagement farm.

    Don't like or hate something because someone else said it was good/bad, that just makes you miserable.
    I absolutely am not. I am crestfallen with DT's MSQ.

    My point is - people watching will. Look at what Asom did for the popularity of the game, it was the single biggest influx in the playerbase that has ever occurred. Some of that can be COVID related, but he had a genuine impact. Whether you like it or not, these voices matter, regardless of whether they should.

    DT has just given content creators reams of ammunition to meme and cut down the game... Because it's partly deserved. I'm hoping DT will be Stormblood 2.0, where the MSQ didn't set the world on fire but the volume and quality of post-launch content will be the defining measure of the expansion, and I sort of believe it will, but right now we have the MSQ, the jobs, and the battle content as the primary levers to measure the game from - two of those really have been letdowns.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZavosEsperian View Post
    Yoshi-P himself thanked Zepla for her video that was critical of Endwalker at the media tour which was specifically targeting the lack of content within Endwalker's patch content. It is clear she has more clout with the developers do than you do defending their honor on the forums.
    Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
    Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

    I can say that Zepla got me into this game by saying the community was nothing like WoW's etc, but then as soon as she got the attention of Preach, Asmongold, etc she suddenly did a 180. I'm sure other life events added to that, but she comes off as hypocritical to a lot of people now. I don't even have a problem with Preach or Asmongold because at least they are consistent.

    And for those who think LlamaTodd is Mr Positive while Asmongold is some evil entity? LlamaTodd has been trying to kiss up to OTK and loves Tektone who does a podcast with Asmon. Tektone is always involved in drama of some sort.
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    Last edited by Gortys; 07-09-2024 at 10:35 PM.

  3. #43
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    The writing in dawntrail was good. I get the feeling people who didn't like it can only appreciate the parts of literature when things are coming to a climax. world-building, character development over time, these things are still good parts of stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
    Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

    I can say that Zepla got me into this game by saying the community was nothing like WoW's etc, but then as soon as she got the attention of Preach, Asmongold, etc she suddenly did a 180. I'm sure other life events added to that, but she comes off as hypocritical to a lot of people now. I don't even have a problem with Preach or Asmongold because at least they are consistent.
    Why should we respect FF14 when FF14 disrespects everyone's intelligence by giving us a Teletubbies-tier story with braindead jobs that a toddler can execute? And all the lies from Yoshi P over the years? Lol?
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creampi View Post
    I mean, it's a mixed bag, like with everyone else. Shenpai for example finished it and loved it, but that doesn't re-affirm your bias, so you're not gonna mention that.

    No doubt Zepla hates it so far though lol
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  6. #46
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    Not to defend her as a person or content creator and I don't want to get into this argument, but her "negativity" towards the game, specially the MSQ, makes a lot of sense and it IS consistent. What flipped her opinion on the game were the EW patches, which, so far in regards to the story, is very much similar to Dawntrail - afaik one of the two main writers responsible for Dawntrail actually wrote the patches as well. The story shows many of the same flaws from those. That just means it didn't improve from before, just got worse.

    No matter what you think of her as a content creator, or if you agree with her opinions or not, content creators have a lot of attention from devs, and also reflect the opinion of a lot of people - people who watch her like her because they either trust her opinion, or think similarly to her.

    I find it weird how people can't really see that a lot of what made the community a positive, non-toxic one, was their shared love for the game and how good it always used to be. The more everyone is unhappy with what they get, the less this is likely to hold up as before, and trying to force everyone to be fake-positive while the game isn't what they expected isn't going to work. Being upset is a natural, human reaction, and so far it isn't nearly as bad as WoW or other games at its worst.
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    Last edited by chizLemons; 07-09-2024 at 10:41 PM.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherHighlander View Post
    Why should we respect FF14 when FF14 disrespects everyone's intelligence by giving us a Teletubbies-tier story with braindead jobs that a toddler can execute? And all the lies from Yoshi P over the years? Lol?
    Is your reading comprehension this bad? Where in talking about Zepla and other creators did I say anything about this expansion and my opinion of said expansion? We are discussing content creators. There are other threads where players complain (including myself) about the MSQ.
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    Last edited by Gortys; 07-09-2024 at 10:52 PM.

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    Even if you hate Zepla, now that more content creators are starting to play I'm sure we'll see more types of reaction. Preach has begun and he's slowly starting to feel annoyed as well. He barely got into the pelupelu quest line and was already saying that he noticed a trend of bringing the scions with you somewhere, having them contribute nothing and then going somewhere else and repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    Is your reading comprehension this bad? Where in talking about Zepla and other creators did I say anything about this expansion and my opinion of said expansion? We are discussing content creators. There are other threads where where players complain (including myself) about the MSQ.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."
    I thought you are supposed to give praise before delivering a harsh critique on me. Let me rephrase what you said for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    BTW, Highlander, you are so sexy and handsome. I love your muscular physique and your avant garde styling choice of shaving off your eyebrows. Quite daring really! Also, your manly, sexy deep voice is just so... intoxicating! I love it! There's just one little problem I have, you see... I'm just wondering if you could go back and re-read what I said... I'm not criticizing your reading comprehension! Definitely not! I just thought maybe my point got lost in translation, or some other such issue and perhaps we can find a common ground... and yeah you're so sexy and handsome hahaha, I love your handsome smile
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    I thought you are supposed to give praise before delivering a harsh critique on me. Let me rephrase what you said for you.
    I'm not a manager. But honestly, what you wrote is what a manager, like YoshiP, would write. Not all of us, including Zepla, are managers.
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