Even our content creators cannot pretend to like the trashy writings of Dawntrail.

[HighlanderClone]

Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.

Not all of us, including Zepla, are managers.

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[MatthiusAbysswalker]

How mads that?

[ZavosEsperian]

Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

I am going to assume when you say "harsh phrasing" you mean critical of the game. I have seen and heard many people go off about how bad DT is and based on what she was saying yesterday (I did catch some of it, but not much) she was rather tame with her criticisms compared to what I have seen elsewhere.

Brutal honesty tends to illustrate a point better than treating them with kid gloves in the world of content creation. People may view Zepla as inconsistent, especially where FFXIV is concerned, but I would argue there has been a shift in the overall quality with the game itself starting in EW. As such, the game changed first so it isn't a surprise that Zepla herself changed in attitude. And her sentiment is echoed throughout the forums as of late, particularly with the MSQ.

I admittedly feel for her a bit, as the game that started her career, let alone loved, has slowly withered and rotted into the state that it is now in. It is rather sad to see her have to come to terms with that while others would gladly consume the rotting game, oblivious (or perhaps aware) to it rotting, and saying "Everything is fine it is you who is wrong!" I have been around a long time myself and I can understand why she says "The game is unrecognizable."

But you do you. You can praise and consume a game that is rotting from the inside out if you want to, just don't be surprised if people come after you for consuming something that is rotting.

[White_Devil]

I absolutely am not. I am crestfallen with DT's MSQ.

My point is - people watching will. Look at what Asom did for the popularity of the game, it was the single biggest influx in the playerbase that has ever occurred. Some of that can be COVID related, but he had a genuine impact. Whether you like it or not, these voices matter, regardless of whether they should.

DT has just given content creators reams of ammunition to meme and cut down the game... Because it's partly deserved. I'm hoping DT will be Stormblood 2.0, where the MSQ didn't set the world on fire but the volume and quality of post-launch content will be the defining measure of the expansion, and I sort of believe it will, but right now we have the MSQ, the jobs, and the battle content as the primary levers to measure the game from - two of those really have been letdowns.

Not disagreeing with you, I'm hoping the same too, fingers crossed for Arcadion and and the eventual Futures Rewritten raid, maybe it'll be a step towards balancing everything out.

I just can't help but feel like some of these voices are disingenuous, but as the bald man says, it is what it is.

Loved Stormblood though.

[TheOperator3712]

The writing in dawntrail was good. I get the feeling people who didn't like it can only appreciate the parts of literature when things are coming to a climax. world-building, character development over time, these things are still good parts of stories.

That's just blatantly untrue. I enjoy ARR, it's got nice low stakes with a ton of worldbuilding. I hate DT with a passion. DT wishes it could be ARR. DT doesn't do actual worldbuilding, it just shallowly stereotypes tribes. It doesn't setup plot threads like ARR did so there's no way for this to be the start of a new major arc. By the time you were level 15 in ARR, you had established plot threads for one of the major city states and the ascians. By the end of DT the only new plot threads are some upset animals, a MacGuffin, and some minor political intrigue that will be solved in one patch.

The issue with DT is not that it's low stakes, because it's not. It's not that it spends all its time worldbuilding, because it doesn't. The issue is that it's boring bad writing.

[Kathryn]

So.. I could only force myself to watch a few minutes of that clip, and honestly I have no idea why she was reacting the way she did. It was as if she was looking for reasons to be offended every other moment.

Sorry if I'm missing the point, but is that usually the way her content is? I tend to play the game rather than watch others play it, so I guess I'm lacking context. Is it a FFXIV hater's club or something?

Her job is literally to get people talking about her and the games shes talking about even if that means complaining about the game, while I have my issues with WL I think the games fine but take that with a pinch of salt like you should anyones opinions, streamer or not.

People criticizing zepla for her takes on the msq are the exact same people who agreed with her when she praised the game
ya'll only like them when they have the "good think"

Nope, I don't watch streamers, I'd rather play the game myself and form my own opinions, not everyone cares about content creators like they dont care for us or you, only your money and views which generate them money. *shrugs*

[Ahelissa]

She's right though. The writing in DT is contrived and *ridiculously* padded/bloated.

[Dranni]

Zepla is hardly alone in her criticism of the story, with the most recent example being Preach also calling the nonsense out as he plays through the MSQ:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2193053068?t=1h45m1s

It's hard to disagree with either of them tbh.

[ThorneDynasty]

Zepla is hardly alone in her criticism of the story, with the most recent example being Preach also calling the nonsense out as he plays through the MSQ:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2193053068?t=1h45m1s

It's hard to disagree with either of them tbh.

It looks like... Preach has become a toxic personality.

(Yes, massive /s)

[Ishe-P]

Maybe I just don't get it, but why do I need a content creator's opinion about how good or bad the game is? Can't I just form my own opinion? Can we start over; what do YOU think about DawnTrail?