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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    People criticizing zepla for her takes on the msq are the exact same people who agreed with her when she praised the game
    ya'll only like them when they have the "good think"
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  2. #32
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    I don't care about content creators opinions on shit, I formulate opinions myself.
    XIV also has some of the absolute worst content creators of any game.
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  3. #33
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Funny how people here say "They're not one of us" the moment a person finally criticizes XIV even if they played it since ARR. You guys aren't beating the cultist allegations.
    It's seriously weird how the community present themselves as accepting and non toxic (compared to, let say WoW) then become passive aggresive the moment someone have an issue with the game.
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    It's not really that surprising, honestly.

    Only thing that surprised me is the whole "this is unrecognizable", especially seeing as XIV has had some pretty abysmal writing and story in the past, and I don't mean in the distance past either.
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  5. #35
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    Imagine conversing or reacting seriously to someone called creampi
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    Literal cancel culture for daring to criticise aar gmae

    "least toxic community" lmao
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    Yeah, I mean if you actually watch that Twitch vod timestamped... It's not great is it.

    Zepla has been a mainstay in the community for a long time and has played a role - however large or small you might think - in promoting and growing the FFXIV community. Whether you agree or not, it isn't great to have the biggest FFXIV streamer bashing the game. She might be doing it for clicks, she might genuinely feel that way. Regardless, it isn't great.

    It really is like a mini cancel culture. She isn't happy and is voicing it. Deal with it.

    Unfortunately, post-EW was pretty trash. Zero was random and shoehorned in and the threat was not legitimate. The power of friendship just isn't a mature concept to have in a previously nuanced MMO. So far, DT is even worse. It isn't good writing, no matter how you shake it.
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  8. #38
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    i wouldn't trust content creators over your own experience alot of them are massive hypocrites, like some here already pointed out they have no morals or allegiance to the brand despite getting special privileges handed to them by SE they just do whatever makes them the most money period.
    now if their opinion alligns with your own then sure go ahead and agree with them but keep in mind their one opinion is not vindictive of the whole playerbase which seems to be largely content with the state of the game and don't care for difficulty, skill gaps, rotations, or any other core battle mechanisms put in place.

    if we follow all the complaints and requests they are by an large centered around housing, glamour, aesthetics, story quality, graphic quality, and not having good quality of life or lifestyle options available ingame and this is the target audience of SE those players who shill out tons of money just to play continuously they could honestly care less if you want a challenge or to have your dark fantasy aesthetics cause its the casuals who put up with mediocrity and they are the ones who keep the game constantly afloat when all these so called complainers and disdainers decided to take off.

    and i have tried myself to advocate for changes and enforce the ideas that we need better gameplay and better updates to existing structures of the game but ofc the so called "community" called me a "hater" and a loser for trying to help them rally to make the game improve but now look at where we are now.. ironic isn't it? so honestly i dont feel bad for this fake "i have awakened and seen the errors of SE" people just shut up you had 10 whole years to make a difference now you can reap what you sow.
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  9. #39
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    Tyrone Myste
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    We really shouldn't be taking the words of ecelebrities as gospel because our talking heads are fundamentally unreliable compared to forming our own opinions as individuals.

    Zepla's been punching down on Endwalker because at the time everyone was making 'I QUIT' videos left and right and it seemed like the hot new thing to get in on, she's also been trying to imitate Asmongold since he pretty much dipped out when people wouldn't let him do his own thing.
    As another example, Arthars doesn't give a damn about FFXIV's story or anything outside the realm of hardcore content, yet he's going on twitter and defending DT MSQ because everyone else is saying it's bad.
    We have a grifter through and through weighing his opinion on DT MSQ and qqing about it being 'woke' despite the fact that he doesn't play.

    All of these people care only about your clicks, they want a good harvest for their engagement farm.

    Don't like or hate something because someone else said it was good/bad, that just makes you miserable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddes View Post
    I was saying I would prefer to hear from someone who has generally always been positive towards the game up to now and hadn't gotten onto the profitable hatetrain for FFXIV at some point.
    This really just makes it sound like you only want to hear positive comments. Then why hear any at all? Just assume it's going to be good and go on with it? Do you need a streamer to confirm your feelings? I know you say later in another response that is not what you need, but maybe choose your wording better if so. When I want to see what others think I watch those who previously bashed and loved a game because I like seeing if minds changed on either front.
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    Last edited by Gortys; 07-09-2024 at 10:19 PM.

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