Even our content creators cannot pretend to like the trashy writings of Dawntrail.

[ZavosEsperian]

Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

I am going to assume when you say "harsh phrasing" you mean critical of the game. I have seen and heard many people go off about how bad DT is and based on what she was saying yesterday (I did catch some of it, but not much) she was rather tame with her criticisms compared to what I have seen elsewhere.

Brutal honesty tends to illustrate a point better than treating them with kid gloves in the world of content creation. People may view Zepla as inconsistent, especially where FFXIV is concerned, but I would argue there has been a shift in the overall quality with the game itself starting in EW. As such, the game changed first so it isn't a surprise that Zepla herself changed in attitude. And her sentiment is echoed throughout the forums as of late, particularly with the MSQ.

I admittedly feel for her a bit, as the game that started her career, let alone loved, has slowly withered and rotted into the state that it is now in. It is rather sad to see her have to come to terms with that while others would gladly consume the rotting game, oblivious (or perhaps aware) to it rotting, and saying "Everything is fine it is you who is wrong!" I have been around a long time myself and I can understand why she says "The game is unrecognizable."

But you do you. You can praise and consume a game that is rotting from the inside out if you want to, just don't be surprised if people come after you for consuming something that is rotting.

[Gortys]

I am going to assume when you say "harsh phrasing" you mean critical of the game. I have seen and heard many people go off about how bad DT is and based on what she was saying yesterday (I did catch some of it, but not much) she was rather tame with her criticisms compared to what I have seen elsewhere.

Brutal honesty tends to illustrate a point better than treating them with kid gloves in the world of content creation. People may view Zepla as inconsistent, especially where FFXIV is concerned, but I would argue there has been a shift in the overall quality with the game itself starting in EW. As such, the game changed first so it isn't a surprise that Zepla herself changed in attitude. And her sentiment is echoed throughout the forums as of late, particularly with the MSQ.

I admittedly feel for her a bit, as the game that started her career, let alone loved, has slowly withered and rotted into the state that it is now in. It is rather sad to see her have to come to terms with that while others would gladly consume the rotting game, oblivious (or perhaps aware) to it rotting, and saying "Everything is fine it is you who is wrong!" I have been around a long time myself and I can understand why she says "The game is unrecognizable."

But you do you. You can praise and consume a game that is rotting from the inside out if you want to, just don't be surprised if people come after you for consuming something that is rotting.

If you want to assume that "harsh phrasing" means being critical, then that is on you. In fact, you make a LOT of assumptions here. We are discussing content creators and not reviewing the game, but you are mixing the 2. It is easy to do when one gets their feelings involved obviously.

I didn't watch her VoD and only caught the middle to the end of her stream. She was really holding it together even though obviously uncomfortable. I had to "self-correct" and remind myself that we unexpectedly fought Zodiark at lvl 83 last expansion. But the fact that I could predict this isn't necessarily good either.

Zepla got me into the game and I think she really wants to be on par with someone like Preach more than Asmongold. The difference is Preach actually employs people to help him and some of that is writing. I don't know if she does the same, but I get the impression she tries to do it all herself.

Essentially all critiques are not equal. Brutal honesty at the moment is noticed more easily for sure, but often it is just as easily discarded by others whether positive or negative. And calling something "garbage" as Asmon and others may do isn't as helpful as some of the more lengthy and thoughtful posts on this forum - such as HighlanderClone's.

[ZavosEsperian]

If you want to assume that "harsh phrasing" means being critical, then that is on you. In fact, you make a LOT of assumptions here. We are discussing content creators and not reviewing the game, but you are mixing the 2. It is easy to do when one gets their feelings involved obviously.

I make assumptions when things are unclear, such as the term "harsh phrasing". Unless you provide me examples of what this is, I am likely going to make an assumption as to what you are talking about. I do not watch Zepla much if at all, and this is true for all FFXIV content creators because I would much rather play the game than watch someone play the game. If you took any personal offense to how I read what you said, consider adding examples so I don't have to use extra brain power to try and guess what you are talking about. As for the thread itself, both streamers and personal opinion are involved due to the title of the thread containing what likely is OPs opinion.

In terms of any emotional investment, I have none regarding this thread. Are you sure you are not projecting your emotions onto me? Or are you upset with the terms I use to describe the game?

If it is the latter of the two, this isn't the thread for me to go on a full diatribe about what I dislike with DT.

Essentially all critiques are not equal.

Indeed, which is why Zepla was noticed by Yoshi-P and he stated he watched her video. She has more clout with SE than any one of us do and because of this, Yoshi-P does consider her input to be more important since she can potentially bring in a lot of players, which you noted you would be one of the one's Zelpla convinced to play FFXIV.

Brutal honesty at the moment is noticed more easily for sure, but often it is just as easily discarded by others whether positive or negative. And calling something "garbage" as Asmon and others may do isn't as helpful as some of the more lengthy and thoughtful posts on this forum - such as HighlanderClone's.

Once again, not the time and place/thread for me to lay into DT fully. If I do elect to do this it would more likely be in a different thread. As for Zepla or any live commentator, it isn't easy to come up with corporate-safe language on the fly so I expect her to be a bit more casual about it than anything else when streaming. As for videos, it has been a bit since that video came out so I don't know if her tone has changed since then.

[Gortys]

If you took any personal offense to how I read what you said, consider adding examples so I don't have to use extra brain power to try and guess what you are talking about.

In terms of any emotional investment, I have none regarding this thread. Are you sure you are not projecting your emotions onto me? Or are you upset with the terms I use to describe the game?

I admittedly feel for her a bit, ...... It is rather sad to see her have to come to terms with that...

I wasn't talking about emotional investment of a thread. There is an emotional investment in the game.