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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    okay firstly. i believe this ZERO. You almost certainly got it the first try on that dng
    No I don't. And that's because I don't that I thought it was dispellable.

    If it's healing that is needed it's even easier without a healer : War, PLD, GNB, RDM, SMN phoenix, DNC. Do you need a full list ?
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  2. #202
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    I will also go for the wait and see approach. Gamers in general are very emotional beings and having "callings for a crusade" aint something new or unique. Without going into details but obviously a lot of people have heard about the problems with WoW and Blizzard(both the game and Blizzard as whole) and there was multiple calls for boycotts, protests and etc. Rezult? In a weeks time, everything was back to business as usual and people arguing about the newest hotfix.
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revash View Post
    I will also go for the wait and see approach. Gamers in general are very emotional beings and having "callings for a crusade" aint something new or unique. Without going into details but obviously a lot of people have heard about the problems with WoW and Blizzard(both the game and Blizzard as whole) and there was multiple calls for boycotts, protests and etc. Rezult? In a weeks time, everything was back to business as usual and people arguing about the newest hotfix.
    Precisely. And suddenly our community forgets all of the good our dev team has done when they don't get their way and throws them into the same boat. If this strike hadn't been poorly planned, poorly timed, and less of a petty temper tantrum in response to a video, I'd be on board for a positive change. But I know better than to put own concerns behind a strike created out of spite. They'd never get read that way. If people want to hurt their own cause, I hope they're not surprised when they don't get the response they want.
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  4. #204
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cercie View Post
    Precisely. And suddenly our community forgets all of the good our dev team has done when they don't get their way and throws them into the same boat. If this strike hadn't been poorly planned, poorly timed, and less of a petty temper tantrum in response to a video, I'd be on board for a positive change. But I know better than to put own concerns behind a strike created out of spite. They'd never get read that way. If people want to hurt their own cause, I hope they're not surprised when they don't get the response they want.
    We are complaining about problems that have gone on since ShB, not in response to xeno’s video

    If you wanna grandstand that you are better because you’ve seen all sides then at least actually do some research
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  5. #205
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cercie View Post
    Precisely. And suddenly our community forgets all of the good our dev team has done when they don't get their way and throws them into the same boat. If this strike hadn't been poorly planned, poorly timed, and less of a petty temper tantrum in response to a video, I'd be on board for a positive change. But I know better than to put own concerns behind a strike created out of spite. They'd never get read that way. If people want to hurt their own cause, I hope they're not surprised when they don't get the response they want.
    Your response just shows how ignorant you are to how long the healer complaints have been going on then, it's been an issue ever since Stormblood where they began to dumb down healers and remove buttons and lessen skill expression, starting with Cleric Stance, which, while I will say it wasn't a bad bad change and made the healer role more comfy and less stressful for skilled players, also began the slope of oversimplification of healer jobs into its lobotomized iteration today.

    Healers have been complaining for YEARS about these very same issues and SE has refused to listen expansion after expansion after expansion.

    I'm personally not striking and think it's pointless to do so, but the reason is because I've seen SE ignore healer complaints time after time after time and still continue to lobotomize the entire role. They do not care about job design being fun or allowing for more skill-expression, all they care about is making sure that the dumbest players are still effective at the role and making the bar to entry for healers simply being able to faceroll the keyboard and hit a few heals on their keyboard as their singular brain cell bounces around their spacious head like a DVD screensaver.

    But at the same time I won't knock people for trying, for still clinging onto the hope that *maybe* SE will listen to us, and hell, I don't think the healer strike will work on its own, but I do believe that there's a possibility that they'll listen to healer complaints and actually do something if the backlash from DT causes SE to re-evaluate their formula and begin to actually start taking risks with job design, the story content they release, and modifying their MMO content formula to actually be new and exciting.

    With how badly they screwed up Dawntrail, there's a possibility for winds of change to stir up and freshen up parts of the game that SE keeps neglecting or outright ignoring, or at least that's what I'm hoping
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    Last edited by Dogempire; 07-08-2024 at 03:14 PM.

  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    We are complaining about problems that have gone on since ShB, not in response to xeno’s video

    If you wanna grandstand that you are better because you’ve seen all sides then at least actually do some research
    youre just complaining for the sake of complaining. maybe all the healers should stop playing the game god knows it would be a much better solution than listen/read your constant effing whinging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimenital View Post
    youre just complaining for the sake of complaining. maybe all the healers should stop playing the game god knows it would be a much better solution than listen/read your constant effing whinging.
    You logged on and willingly read and replied
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    You logged on and willingly read and replied
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    lol yeah cause im sick of seeing every chronically online loser healer who has a complex, whinge and moan.
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimenital View Post
    youre just complaining for the sake of complaining. maybe all the healers should stop playing the game god knows it would be a much better solution than listen/read your constant effing whinging.
    I’m not playing healer anymore, that’s the entire point of the strike, I’m a PCT main now

    I’ll still talk about them here but I’m gone from them in game

    If you felt the need to make a forum account specifically to tell others to shut up you might need some introspection but that’s not my prerogative
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #210
    Player Dimenital's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m not playing healer anymore, that’s the entire point of the strike, I’m a PCT main now

    I’ll still talk about them here but I’m gone from them in game

    If you felt the need to make a forum account specifically to tell others to shut up you might need some introspection but that’s not my prerogative
    if youre gone from them then why continue to talk about them. seems like a pretty parasocial and obsessive compulsion issue. might need to go get therapy for that.
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