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  1. #51
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    Manon Rillemont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitelancer View Post
    Maybe your thread is the first they saw. Maybe you raised some specific point that they didn't see elsewhere and they wanted to reply. There are any number of reasons why someone would feel compelled to reply to your thread. And you certainly do need the education. Otherwise, you wouldn't try to make nonsensical arguments about why people shouldn't reply to your thread. That type of reply does not reflect a healthy mindset and is no good for a forum participant.
    omg wow thank you soooooo much for educating me i'll expect people to just behave like wild animals instead of doing the perfectly normal thing of 'staying in their lane' or 'not contributing to a conversation they have nothing to contribute for' and instead just being fine with the fact that xiv players genuinely cannot read and feel like they need me specifically to know what they think

    good lord

    very funny to me you think comments like "5/10 at best" and "3/10" are, in any way, a reply to a specific point and not a sign that the person replying thinks their opinion is the most important one in the room. be real.
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  2. #52
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    Sirk Raven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    I already answered you in another thread about exactly this point about your MCS stance on the playerbase. You actually answered part of it yourself here.
    You just don't do a 180 turn of this kind in an mmorpg. Because players liked being the MC (and its even more important because we are silent).
    I will ignore your attack on those with criticism (no one else can enjoy it) because I repeatedly say that I am happy for those who like either this here or the BLM changes. But this is a forum so feedback from others on a topic is to be expected.

    Also there was no real adventuring this time because the path was either written in stone (the first part) or escalated (the second part).
    its a MMORPG...you can write the story however you want whether we are the MC or not, a RPG doesn't require us to the MC of the RPG just requires us to play a role in the story with we do and they can....as we see they did whether you like that or not now that is on you. Also there is no adventuring ever in the story....everything is written in stone how and when you will experience something there is the illusion of a path but in the end you are following scripted scenarios now the triggers are different.
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  3. #53
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreadOfFate View Post
    very funny to me you think comments like "5/10 at best" and "3/10" are, in any way, a reply to a specific point and not a sign that the person replying thinks their opinion is the most important one in the room. be real.
    Lol I genuinely think people started using X/10 because they misunderstood my reply.

    Maybe at 39 I am too old, do Gen Zs still use this way of ranking trolling attempts?
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  4. #54
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    Ponder Nite
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreadOfFate View Post
    omg wow thank you soooooo much for educating me
    Glad to be of service
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  5. #55
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Blue Mage Lv 47
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    its a MMORPG...you can write the story however you want whether we are the MC or not, a RPG doesn't require us to the MC of the RPG just requires us to play a role in the story with we do and they can....as we see they did whether you like that or not now that is on you. Also there is no adventuring ever in the story....everything is written in stone how and when you will experience something there is the illusion of a path but in the end you are following scripted scenarios now the triggers are different.
    Are you serious with that adventuring take?
    Of course its scripted duh. I'm talking about the adventuring FEELING. Adventuring is having a quest that lets us go into a cave exploring (maybe as a dungeon), going traveling and interacting with the people (not just three every quest for the succesor part).

    Your first point. Sure they can write the story however they want. But if you change the entire premise of perspective after how many expansions into the absolute other direction then you will absolutely farm feedback on it and in this case mine is negative. They never did this before (even ARR, HW and Stb had us as a big part of the story if not even the center piece at many points like Ultima weapon, the primals, Niddhog, Zenos, Azim steppe and so on) even though we were not the hero in some of it.
    Is it possible to to that and can they do it successfull? Sure why not. If it is done good then I would be happy. This MMORPG has always been to the biggest part about our silent protagonist though. That's what I'm saying.

    Like I said if you like the story all the more power to you. Thats why I don't reply to OP because it's fine that they like the story and I have no problem with them. If not for some stuff like not seeing negative feedback in game (I just gave my own experience) and your stuff I would have never replied.
    I'm talking to you here because of the choice of your words like Main character syndrome to belittle negative feedback.

    I'm sorry but I don't think we will find equal ground in this discussion and I will end it here to not derail the thread.
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    Last edited by Voidmage; 07-05-2024 at 02:22 AM.

  6. #56
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Was good for a chuckle. Thanks OP!
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  7. #57
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Miss the political drama.

    We need something persistent like the Garlean Empire and Monetarists again.
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  8. #58
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    Asura Ranweld
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    Loved EVERYTHING including the oh so negatively pointed Wuk Lamat, i don't have an MC syndrome thankfully, i can live fine by being a side character for one MSQ, but if there was a single thing i would say about the MSQ i wish was better it's : more combat focused quests... instead of dung fetch quests, please...
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  9. #59
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Stop trolling.
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    Asura Ranweld
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    I totally agree with Bakool Ja Ja thing here, it was welcome but way too sudden for me.
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