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  1. #11
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    Cutest Fox
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurenXIV View Post
    This is coming from a player who has been subscribed for almost 11 years . . . not to say that should give more weight than anyone else's feeling but I find it amusing for others to come to think "Oh this isn't the game for you" when it literally has been the game for me, my main game, for the better part of a decade.
    Oh yeah. Remember, as soon as you don't like something- you need to leave!
    A-and don't let the door hit you on the way out! Totally!

    You're right, though.
    I'd also absolutely prefer to trade off whatever energy was spent making these filler quests into at least one extra dungeon, or *anything* else
    (15)

  2. #12
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    Fiora Victorine
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    I will only take more MSQ if Ishikawa writes it
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  3. #13
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    Kuren Karashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by fioravictorine View Post
    I will only take more MSQ if Ishikawa writes it
    Cheers to that . . . she is an absolutely incredible talent.
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  4. #14
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    Serkonius Garolymar
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    I'd love to know what people who defend Dawntrail actually like about it? The pacing is the worst it has ever been, it retreads old ground in terms of story and themes and does them worse than previous expansions have. The cast has been over taken by a loud tropey writer's pet and the scions have been turned into wooden boards that occupy space. I won't deny there are a few decent moments at the end, but they all involve characters we've known for years and are still brought down pretty badly by being in an expansion that is 90% a slog to get through.
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  5. #15
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Give it a rest, she won't come back. She moved on. Also, its a team effort, it wasn't like Ishikawa did everything. There is a team behind her.
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  6. #16
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    Kuren Karashi
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Give it a rest, she won't come back. She moved on. Also, its a team effort, it wasn't like Ishikawa did everything. There is a team behind her.
    There's an incredibly clear difference between how she writes and how others write.

    Yes, you are correct in that it's a team effort but when one of the main selling points of your game is its story you have to have others who can decently fill the void their top writers leave when they aren't involved (for whatever reason).

    Ishikawa understands how to write nuance, understands the various characters and how they would interact with others or react to a given scenario, she understands how to properly pace dialogue and conversations, and she is able to set up compelling scenarios with a great pay off.

    I'm not saying it's easy to find someone like her but they have to either train their writers better or find writers more akin to Ishikawa.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garolymar View Post
    I'd love to know what people who defend Dawntrail actually like about it? The pacing is the worst it has ever been, it retreads old ground in terms of story and themes and does them worse than previous expansions have. The cast has been over taken by a loud tropey writer's pet and the scions have been turned into wooden boards that occupy space. I won't deny there are a few decent moments at the end, but they all involve characters we've known for years and are still brought down pretty badly by being in an expansion that is 90% a slog to get through.
    You are only going to get inane responses like:

    - I love that it's so chill!!!

    - I love Wuk Lamat!!

    - I love the adventure!!!

    I truly have not seen a single in-depth positive review that isn't just "I loved it tho", other than that one troll thread posted a while back.

    It's really ironic that these are the same people saying "you need media literacy to like Dawntrail" when they don't seem to be able to produce a single iota of analysis of the story.
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  8. #18
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    You don't like it you know what you need to do, don't let the door hit you on the way out seriously, all people on this forum do is whinge, just f'n leave, you won't be missed.
    Ahhh yes because licking boots when you feel you've been handed a sub par product is surely the best way to try and influence a better, product. But don't worry too much buddy you can go back to hero worshiping people who keep lying to you, I've got 5 days left, I'm sure the rest of us have similar amounts of time so we'll all be outie and you can go back to waiting for about 6 hours to get a duty as the player count drop, enjoy.
    (9)

  9. #19
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Skip the story and buy a storyskip then.

    Or don't play a storybased game in the first place. You're doing yourself a disservice.
    I love how FFXIV being a ''story based game'' mean that it can't have some rpg mob slaying part post Shadowbringer for some unknown reason...
    (6)

  10. #20
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    You are only going to get inane responses like:

    - I love that it's so chill!!!

    - I love Wuk Lamat!!

    - I love the adventure!!!

    I truly have not seen a single in-depth positive review that isn't just "I loved it tho", other than that one troll thread posted a while back.

    It's really ironic that these are the same people saying "you need media literacy to like Dawntrail" when they don't seem to be able to produce a single iota of analysis of the story.
    Most of the Dawntrail defense posts I've seen are identical to ones I saw on WoW's forums when it hit its first truly bad expansion.
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