I'd rather have no MSQ and more dungeons and raids at this point . . .

[KurenXIV]

DT's MSQ gets worse and worse and worse the further in you get.

I honestly think if this is the quality of story we're gonna get they should just cut their losses, do small side stories and no longer have an MSQ.

[spoiler rant below for story elements leading up to the level 97 dungeon]

So . . . OK after several more hours of boring cut scenes, boring talk to this person/find this person quests and absolutely ZERO COMBAT except for killing 3 mobs (WOWIE!) we finally get to this BIG build up about how we're gonna modify this train and its gonna be super cool and it's gonna have turrets and shields and all sorts of stuff.

Oh man, now we're going on the train! This has to be the dungeon...right?

Oh...it's not the dungeon...BUT we're manning one of the turrets! OK so it'll be a solo instanced fight right with new mechanics?

Oh...ok it's not?

O...oh...it's just a cut scene.

Like for real SE!? Piss off honestly with this garbage. I WANT TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING IN THE MSQ. I've never EVER been so mad at this game before.

Seriously what were they thinking with this!?

The sad irony is after many hours of slogging through the MSQ by the time the cutscene ended I was just too bored/tired to actually run the dungeon . . .

So yeah, just . . . throw in the towel SE and give us more combat content and slice of life content for the casuals. The time, effort, and money you're spending to make the MSQ just doesn't feel worth it any more.

[Kathryn]

DT's MSQ gets worse and worse and worse the further in you get.

I honestly think if this is the quality of story we're gonna get they should just cut their losses, do small side stories and no longer have an MSQ.

[spoiler rant below for story elements leading up to the level 97 dungeon]

So . . . OK after several more hours of boring cut scenes, boring talk to this person/find this person quests and absolutely ZERO COMBAT except for killing 3 mobs (WOWIE!) we finally get to this BIG build up about how we're gonna modify this train and its gonna be super cool and it's gonna have turrets and shields and all sorts of stuff.

Oh man, now we're going on the train! This has to be the dungeon...right?

Oh...it's not the dungeon...BUT we're manning one of the turrets! OK so it'll be a solo instanced fight right with new mechanics?

Oh...ok it's not?

O...oh...it's just a cut scene.

Like for real SE!? Piss off honestly with this garbage. I WANT TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING IN THE MSQ. I've never EVER been so mad at this game before.

Seriously what were they thinking with this!?

The sad irony is after many hours of slogging through the MSQ by the time the cutscene ended I was just too bored/tired to actually run the dungeon . . .

So yeah, just . . . throw in the towel SE and give us more combat content and slice of life content for the casuals. The time, effort, and money you're spending to make the MSQ just doesn't feel worth it any more.

*Plays a Story driven MMO then proceeds to complain about Story in a Story Driven MMO*



Go play WoW for minimum lore/story and more combat, I mean it seriously FFXIV is not the game for you.

[Malthir]

*Plays a Story driven MMO then proceeds to complain about Story in a Story Driven MMO*



Go play WoW for minimum lore/story and more combat, I mean it seriously FFXIV is not the game for you.

Your statement would be true if this expac was a game, the MSQ has no GAME, it's just watching other NPC's talk for 30 hours with functionally no gameplay inbetween.

[Kathryn]

Your statement would be true if this expac was a game, the MSQ has no GAME, it's just watching other NPC's talk for 30 hours with functionally no gameplay inbetween.

You don't like it you know what you need to do, don't let the door hit you on the way out seriously, all people on this forum do is whinge, just f'n leave, you won't be missed.

[Malthir]

You don't like it you know what you need to do, don't let the door hit you on the way out seriously, all people on this forum do is whinge, just f'n leave, you won't be missed.

Ahhh yes because licking boots when you feel you've been handed a sub par product is surely the best way to try and influence a better, product. But don't worry too much buddy you can go back to hero worshiping people who keep lying to you, I've got 5 days left, I'm sure the rest of us have similar amounts of time so we'll all be outie and you can go back to waiting for about 6 hours to get a duty as the player count drop, enjoy.

[LilyPendragon]

You don't like it you know what you need to do, don't let the door hit you on the way out seriously, all people on this forum do is whinge, just f'n leave, you won't be missed.

great community by the way

I'm glad story Andys are finally seeing how poor the gameplay experience of the MSQ is

[KurenXIV]

Oh bug off.

I've played since ARR launch. FFXIV used to be a game with a fantastic story and compelling gameplay interwoven to deliver a wonderful MMO experience.

With DT we are forced to go through a visual novel which you have to slog through just to get to the content which is engaging and fun.

When you're entering a new phase of the story, where in the last decade of lore has largely concluded, you have to make it interesting, engaging and fun for your long term players.

"Talk to Wuk Lamat" a billion times and getting exposition dumps on things is not good story telling or world building.

Having us not be involved in a meaningful way to the events occurring around us is not good story telling or world building.

By not engaging us with gameplay to make us feel invested in the world like the prior arcs had (from ARR through EW) you're just left with an empty husk of a story where you feel like you're just going through the motions.

[Shaedhen]

The sequence you mention also felt really strange to me because it was like the ultimate and perfect opportunity to get a rail-shooter sequence in the msq (just like that mini-game in the gold saucer btw, or one of the mecha sequence in Werlyt if I remember correctly ? so not something you'd have to fully implement from scratch).
To be honest I usually don't care for these type of sequence because I just don't enjoy them, but even this time it felt like a complete missed opportunity.

[Sotaris]

Skip the story and buy a storyskip then.

Or don't play a storybased game in the first place. You're doing yourself a disservice.

[KurenXIV]

Skip the story and buy a storyskip then.

Or don't play a storybased game in the first place. You're doing yourself a disservice.

Again, I've played and enjoyed the entire MSQ story from ARR start through EW. I was here at the launch of ARR and I love the game. I tried to get as many friends as I could to play it because of the story and how engaged it made me feel as the player.

I came from WoW. I played WoW from Vanilla through MoP and I feel that XIV is the superior product because of its high production value and wonderfully rich story telling.

The direction of how they are handing the story and the quality of the story is just so bad this time around it's left the worst possible feeling with me.

This is coming from a player who has been subscribed for almost 11 years . . . not to say that should give more weight than anyone else's feeling but I find it amusing for others to come to think "Oh this isn't the game for you" when it literally has been the game for me, my main game, for the better part of a decade.