#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[GoodPerson]

Check out the creation dates for a lot of these accounts. Most of them that are "striking" are 2-4 years old, many are less than that. Now you go to the actual game and the healers letting people die are the ones trying to dps, not focusing mechanics, not healing at all, bad gear, sprout, etc.

Forum account creation date =/= date of play, theyre sadly seperate. I, for example, have been playing since around HW on and off, and didnt have much of a strong desire to engage with the forms until about recently, mostly because i saw this thread and decided to interact with it because i agree with the points here.

[Akava]

Check out the creation dates for a lot of these accounts. Most of them that are "striking" are 2-4 years old, many are less than that. Now you go to the actual game and the healers letting people die are the ones trying to dps, not focusing mechanics, not healing at all, bad gear, sprout, etc.

"Join Date" is simply the date the person created their forum account.

I'm also someone who has historically played a healer in many games, started as a healer in this one and over time have found the general focus on babying healers as if they are incapable of healing and handling mechanics at the same time infuriating. I fully support this strike and think its already been successful in many regards. There's no way the dev team is not aware of current healer frustrations and that's a step in the right direction. Only time will tell if meaningful changes will be implemented.

[GoodPerson]

And suprising no one the inclusive and loving community turns out to actually be toxic to anyone who doesn't completely conform to it.

It's wild how true this is, even outside of the context of this thread.

I've often voiced general critiques about Xiv as , I love the game, concept, etc etc and genuinely just wish it to be better than the best MMO on the market. And having played pretty much every modern mmo, it gives insight as to what Xiv really does well in, and what it really drops the ball with. A common point is gameplay and class identity/class depth. Once, I mentioned a generic critique like "Bard/Dnc really should be more than 12[proc fish] as a gameplay loop. They should really lean more into step/technical step as a class fantasy because I think it could create far more exciting gameplay moments in-between 1-2 spam. Maybe unique effects depending on the order of steps input similar to ninja, that showcases actual choreography." For most normal people that have a normal relationship with XIV, they either agree or disagree, and usually theres some discussion. With what feels like most XIV fans however, they take it as if I personally insulted their mother and its just so abnormal.

This ties into this thread because THIS thread is bringing in people that don't care or think its stupid (valid), but then some decide to try and derail or be antagonistic with stupid comments like "Touch grass" as if they're not spending 13$/m themself to watch pixels move around for a few hours a day . Its just a hobby that I, and many people are passionate about. And just like we are commenting healers feel awful, I too would agree/disagree about a topic and acknowledge someone going and making a thread over a general consensus like "Hey, SMN feels really bad atm because of xyz" , or just not interact, like a normal person would because this is the game ALL of us play together, for better or for worse.

Not stick my head into the sand and scream "You're stupid, this is stupid, FFXIV can do no wrong, its the perfect game, this statement is fact, not opinion." Or the more common response:

"Well... ty for the fast ques!" As if the heavy majority of these people commenting this were playing healer with any consistently beyond switching for a friend or to cap tomes.

[BunnyQueen]

notice it's mostly the newer players complaining....yet it's mostly the newer players letting me as a tank main die

As a tank main I am gonna say that you have a .... skill issue.

I never have that issue so sounds like you are lacking.

[GrimGale]

I keep reading that we healers demanded our kits simplified and this "one button spam" is actually our fault. That we asked for this.

Please someone point me to a thread or something about a loud outspoken movement to have 1 nuke and 1 DoT be our majority of casts for most of our gameplay.

Someone also point me at people asking for Kaiten to be removed, BLM non-standard removed, SMN being reduced to 2 buttons and MNK's rotation being 1,2,3 forever.

[gllt]

You can ask for things to change again even if you asked for them to change before. This is not a genie in a bottle with a limited amount of wishes. The playerbase and game surrounding those changes have also changed. Maybe those changes don't make sense anymore. How is that hard to grasp? What are you afraid of, dev time being stolen from changes you want? Why can't we put you on trial for how justified or not the things you want from the game are? Why do we need to conform to your success conditions because the word strike was used? Why do I have to care if you like my protest or not? Why do I have to be accountable for other people and their goals in this movement? Whyyyy am I supposed to care about anything you have to say?

[Sani2341]

I keep reading that we healers demanded our kits simplified and this "one button spam" is actually our fault. That we asked for this.

Please someone point me to a thread or something about a loud outspoken movement to have 1 nuke and 1 DoT be our majority of casts for most of our gameplay.

Someone also point me at people asking for Kaiten to be removed, BLM non-standard removed, SMN being reduced to 2 buttons and MNK's rotation being 1,2,3 forever.

There isn't really.

There's old old threads about are/hw cleric stance, but nothing asking for DOT removal etc.

In fact opposite is true. Even in SB AST Players asked for an AoE DOT for themselves as SCH and WHM had them at that time.

Think it's around page 80ish in the Healer Forum. I Checked it a while back bc I wondered just that.

[GoodPerson]

I keep reading that we healers demanded our kits simplified and this "one button spam" is actually our fault. That we asked for this.

Please someone point me to a thread or something about a loud outspoken movement to have 1 nuke and 1 DoT be our majority of casts for most of our gameplay.

Someone also point me at people asking for Kaiten to be removed, BLM non-standard removed, SMN being reduced to 2 buttons and MNK's rotation being 1,2,3 forever.

None exist beyond nuances of cleric stance, and maybe come complaints about AST rng pre STB.

IIRC, most of the commentary was the occasion where a cohealer would prioritize dps (or a healer would prioritize dps in 4-man content) leading to folks dying or content being more difficult than need be, causing people to complain. I believe the response was to, lower the amount of button bloat and redirect some of the damage into their dot(making it longer) and Glare equivalent(higher potency) so that healers would have less of a need to focus on dps, and more on healing or in general, give them less to juggle so that they could exclusively focus on keeping hp up.

[Ryaduera]

notice it's mostly the newer players complaining....yet it's mostly the newer players letting me as a tank main die

As a tank main... How are you dying? Even as DRK if you do it right, especially with the new Shadowed Vigil, you can stay alive for an entire pull without a healer.

If you're dying, you're doing it intentionally. Blaming the healers for it won't fix bad gameplay.

[Anatha]

No, I want healers to have more of a chance to HEAL, they are HEALERS.

Maybe you should heal what's been added then. That's all you have time to do.