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    Dawntrail suffers from the same issues as Stormblood story wise. (2 stories in one expansion.)

    But that's honestly where it ends, I just don't understand why they had the exact same issues. Shadowbringers handled the second half story shift so much better than SB and DT that I thought they learnt from their mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Dawntrail suffers from the same issues as Stormblood story wise. (2 stories in one expansion.)

    But that's honestly where it ends, I just don't understand why they had the exact same issues. Shadowbringers handled the second half story shift so much better than SB and DT that I thought they learnt from their mistake.
    I think they did, Endwalker even did great, too. I mean at the 83 trial I'm pretty sure everyone went "Wait, already!?" but in a good way. It meant bigger things were happening.

    The issue we see now is a new writer. Someone who hasn't learned their lessons. A new writfer following ShB and EW was always going to be a difficult battle and it was sure to get the brunt of some criticism... But the mistakes in this expansion are so obvious and so terribly that, while I see a new writer making these mistakes, this script had to go through editors and undergo revisions. There isn't "A writer" there's teams of writers. Multiple sets of eyes. It makes me wonder, how bad was it before revisions that this looks this bad now?
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    I think they did, Endwalker even did great, too. I mean at the 83 trial I'm pretty sure everyone went "Wait, already!?" but in a good way. It meant bigger things were happening.

    The issue we see now is a new writer. Someone who hasn't learned their lessons. A new writfer following ShB and EW was always going to be a difficult battle and it was sure to get the brunt of some criticism... But the mistakes in this expansion are so obvious and so terribly that, while I see a new writer making these mistakes, this script had to go through editors and undergo revisions. There isn't "A writer" there's teams of writers. Multiple sets of eyes. It makes me wonder, how bad was it before revisions that this looks this bad now?
    Given the change of writer it feels really strange they were allowed to let there OC just crush every scene and drive out every character
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Given the change of writer it feels really strange they were allowed to let there OC just crush every scene and drive out every character
    It's such a blatant Mary Sue character, if it's so obvious now, how bad did the script look before it went through revisions? Normally I wait until I complete a story to give a full critique and I'm not through the entire expansion yet, but this is just so bad. This whole thing sounds like something I'd find on Wattpad.
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    It's such a blatant Mary Sue character, if it's so obvious now, how bad did the script look before it went through revisions? Normally I wait until I complete a story to give a full critique and I'm not through the entire expansion yet, but this is just so bad. This whole thing sounds like something I'd find on Wattpad.
    Lyse makes her grand return lol.
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