The missing mood in the existential horror of the last zone of the game (spoilers)

[SDaemon]

I don't think I did a great job with explaining myself. I do not agree with Emet-selch. It was genocide. He was a monster, but one I think we could all understand to some degree and still disagree with. What I'm saying is, deleting the entire memory database as an answer does not sit well with me in the slightest and in actuality disgusts me. We could've found a different way or at least attempted to. That is where the writing is lacking, to even acknowledge what's going to happen to these memories after they're gone. They live in us? Right so that's bs. Memories live MAYBE 2 or 3 generations if you're lucky. Not to mention it's hogwash when we're standing in front of these people and then going to delete them.

Emet-selch was wrong, and I still feel we're wrong too.

Like, it's literally a villain arc. Suffering is bad so just kill everyone. You're going to kill our world so we kill yours first so you won't need to kill ours anymore. It's stupid. It's really really stupid.

We could have found a different way? Sphene refused repeatedly to even entertain the notion of a different way, despite pleas to do so. What solution would you offer to someone who refuses to accept any alternative no matter? Would you try and force this alternative on her and hope your attempts somehow reach a peaceful resolution before the countdown ends and your home is destroyed?

"You're going to kill our world so we kill yours first so you won't need to kill ours anymore." Are people no longer allowed to defend themselves from aggressors bent on your annihilation? Do we simply sit there waiting for death to come because otherwise we'll be villains?

[LittleArrow]

We could have found a different way? Sphene refused repeatedly to even entertain the notion of a different way, despite pleas to do so. What solution would you offer to someone who refuses to accept any alternative no matter? Would you try and force this alternative on her and hope your attempts somehow reach a peaceful resolution before the countdown ends and your home is destroyed?

"You're going to kill our world so we kill yours first so you won't need to kill ours anymore." Are people no longer allowed to defend themselves from aggressors bent on your annihilation? Do we simply sit there waiting for death to come because otherwise we'll be villains?

Agreed. That's why I said OR at least attempted to. Sphene needed to be put down. She's a monster. However so was Zenos and we still went in to help the Garleans (this isn't a one to one, but I'm just stating the mood regarding our WoL to our enemies and their people), we went into save the very beast tribes that vowed to destroy everything we loved with summoning - it didn't always work out and sometimes there wasn't another way, we just had to aoe'em down.

I'm saying, I wanted to try - not with Sphene not with reasoning b/c that was stupid. I wanted to try our way, contact Cid, bring in an atmos, shoot I don't anything - we apparently had enough time to bring in an entire building force for the train and walk around eating fake food in the end. I wish my WoL could've used that time to back up their memories, or find a way to route them to our lifestream, or just try before instantly accepting - yep to the deletion for you.

[Edit] I understand and agree with the counterarguments that we need to defend ourselves. Yes. Do that. I was saying that to myself too, but the WoL is different. They're a hero. They'll defend, fight, and kill to protect their world and even other worlds like in ShB. I'm saying, Emet was defending his world too. He had a way to bring back his friends, his life, and his society - he promised them he would. Emet was defending a dream he had for those he loved. It was wrong, and he himself stated he lost because he was trying to bring back something he'd lost while we were defending what we now have - he couldn't accept they lost (very waterdown explanation). I don't think it was right to delete them without trying to do something else. We could've failed and seen there's nothing we could do. I'm not saying we shouldn't defend ourselves. I'm saying the writing was bad and drove me nuts to not even try and show us how there is no other way besides a literal ticking timebomb... but with time to get to know people. (besides the Krile stuff... which should've been the main focus of the entire zone and more of the MSQ imo)