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  1. #631
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    Kailea_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Kailea Nagisa
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Not gonna spoil anything but my god. It's actually difficult to do the MSQ with such an obnoxious character.

    Maybe I'll change my mind at the end... maybe... but it doesn't seem that way anymore...

    Edit: To the people trying to gaslight story criticizers into thinking it's just some loud forum minority...

    4chan is very critical of the story too, although I'm not sure whether they're actually mad at the story or mad at this "Sweet Baby" thing I keep seeing.

    /r/ffxivdiscussion is very critical of the story. You can see it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...iscussion_hub/

    /r/ffxiv is also mildly critical of the story, though it's more mixed: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...il_rises_to_a/

    /r/MMORPG is critical. https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comm...ting_on_steam/

    Steam is mixed. Dawntrail is at 60% right now.

    GameFaqs is mixed and leans critical: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...trail/80799642, https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...trail/80800359

    5ch is very critical: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...dawntrail_msq/ (Although once again it's... 5chan).

    Anecdotally I've also seen a lot of criticism in shout chat. On my Discord servers and in-game interactions it's also mixed to lean-critical.

    Only Twitter is unabashedly positive about DT.

    My longer criticism of the story here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-full-spoilers Full spoilers!
    there is no gaslighting, it is a minority, her character is fine.
    (0)

  2. #632
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    Ryaduera's Avatar
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    Ryaduera Tengille
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    there is no gaslighting, it is a minority, her character is fine.
    Gaslightings not even real, what do lamps have to do with this?
    (18)
    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  3. #633
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    lolnotacat's Avatar
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    there is no gaslighting, it is a minority, her character is fine.
    There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
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  4. #634
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  5. #635
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    lolnotacat's Avatar
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    How dare you imply that learning that traders like to trade, or that learning a taco recipe isn't character development?
    (23)

  6. #636
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    Radvo Nikolaj
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Having finished the MSQ now, I return with newfound hate for the character.
    They really insisted on her ruining every single good moment in this expansion.

    Ending spoilers
    Having her show up in the final trial screeching in her insufferable voice that she understands Sphene while axe-ing her in the face... why... Just to steal the last chance we had at an "epic" moment in the story for ourselves.
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  7. #637
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Radvo View Post
    Having finished the MSQ now, I return with newfound hate for the character.
    They really insisted on her ruining every single good moment in this expansion.

    Ending spoilers
    Having her show up in the final trial screeching in her insufferable voice that she understands Sphene while axe-ing her in the face... why... Just to steal the last chance we had at an "epic" moment in the story for ourselves.
    Seriously it's a joke, spoiler below

    More like we're winning, ok plot demands that we're losing so a barrier between locations in a virtual world breaks open which Wuk did so she can come save us with her "Anime Friendship Shonen Power". I'm the main character, out of my way peasant! I've got to reason with an AI!


    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    How dare you imply that learning that traders like to trade, or that learning a taco recipe isn't character development?
    *sips tea*
    (19)
    Last edited by Undeadfire; 07-03-2024 at 09:59 AM.

  8. #638
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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    Seriously it's a joke, spoiler below

    More like we're winning, ok plot demands that we're losing so a barrier between locations in a virtual world breaks open which Wuk did so she can come save us with her "Anime Friendship Shonen Power". I'm the main character, out of my way peasant! I've got to reason with an AI!

    *sips tea*
    The manner of her entry in that fight is a very obvious attempt to copy one of the coolest moment in EndWalker. Like I said before Wuk has a lot of copy and paste aspects that were popular with other characters, and this team of writer thought they just have to recreate the samething and capture similar effect. It's like they don't understand it's the character that make the scene, not the other way around.
    (28)

  9. #639
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    RamKat's Avatar
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    Leona Constantia
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    Lamia
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    Goldsmith Lv 99
    I want the adventure Estinien got to have this expansion.

    Have never disliked a character as much as Wuk while simultaneously been forced to be with her non-stop for the entire expansion.

    Plenty of other gripes, but all pale in comparison to the ominous cloud of Wuk that hangs over every inch of the expac. Sucking the fun out of other elements that I would otherwise be riding high on.
    (40)

  10. #640
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    ZodaSoda's Avatar
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    Zoda Ragnarok
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 92
    Its crazy how obvious it is that the WoL should have been doing what Estinien was doing
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