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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Exactly, look at the healerstrike thread *shudders*.
    Yeah, it's pretty silly how many people won't even read the OP, post the same tired argument against the thread, and then get upset when people have no patience for them.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    Maam i know more than 10 people that participate in the strike that are not even have forum posts. Just because not everyone writes doesnt mean they dont exist.
    until I see any actual impact on queues or party finder due to lack of healers, the "strike" does not exist
    Less than a hundred people at most, and that is not even 0.1% of the game's population.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by AddictedToWitches View Post
    until I see any actual impact on queues or party finder due to lack of healers, the "strike" does not exist
    Less than a hundred people at most, and that is not even 0.1% of the game's population.
    Literally everyone who switched off healer because they're bored of it is "striking". That's a lot more than 100. The "strike" isn't a real strike. It's just people changing jobs to classes they enjoy more than the boring healers. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.

    I was a Sage main in Endwalker. Playing Sage outside of savage prog is boring. Playing Sage in savage prog is still mildly boring. I switched to Bard for Dawntrail because its more fun. I will not be playing healers unless there are major changes because I don't find it fun.

    Technically, I'm "striking", but really I'm just playing jobs that don't bore me until healers are made more interesting.
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    Last edited by SirShady; 07-02-2024 at 08:03 PM.

  4. #194
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    Lets be honest Miss Goro.
    We both don't know how many participate or not.
    In what form ever. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    because 1 of the dooms is cleansed by healing and bard is a 1/21 chance to be in your roulette anyway. not to mention they can only esuna 1 person at time
    You only get a Doom debuff if you get hit by the butterflies. It's not really an unavoidable 'esuna check' akin to something like Exdeath's opening moves in Deltascape V.4, so from a mechanics perspective, a healer isn't mandatory to clear the fight. The same applies to the earlier boss that gives you Necrosis if you fail to dodge the gas clouds.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Healers asked in the past for more reasons to use their bloated healing kits. We weren’t given that. Hence why now they are asking for more engagement for what they ARE doing: dealing damage.
    This is very true, healers have been asking constantly for anything to tackle the downtime, and Yoship-P's response to those questions birthed the "Just do Ultimate" thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by AddictedToWitches View Post
    until I see any actual impact on queues or party finder due to lack of healers, the "strike" does not exist
    Less than a hundred people at most, and that is not even 0.1% of the game's population.
    Well, according to the thread creator their strike officially starts today, so perhaps you can share your findings over the next few days in regards to queue times.
    Though to be honest, I just imagine for regular content it will be slower on DPS timers since that's the only role that was added this expansion and people want to try them out.

    In any case, I won't be surprised if there is another healer drought in PF going into savage just like in Abyssos.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunhwapark View Post
    You only get a Doom debuff if you get hit by the butterflies. It's not really an unavoidable 'esuna check' akin to something like Exdeath's opening moves in Deltascape V.4, so from a mechanics perspective, a healer isn't mandatory to clear the fight. The same applies to the earlier boss that gives you Necrosis if you fail to dodge the gas clouds.
    yes so basically the only way a healer isnt needed is if ur a bunch of premades with high skill level. i mean. this has been the case since even arr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunhwapark View Post
    Well, according to the thread creator their strike officially starts today, so perhaps you can share your findings over the next few days in regards to queue times.
    Though to be honest, I just imagine for regular content it will be slower on DPS timers since that's the only role that was added this expansion and people want to try them out.

    In any case, I won't
    honestly i think this is just amusing.
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 07-02-2024 at 07:53 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    yes so basically the only way a healer isnt needed is if ur a bunch of premades with high skill level. i mean. this has been the case since even arr.
    In other critique about the strike, people claim dungeons don't matter at all, since they are so easy they aren't "real content". And now, making sure you avoid a few easily avoidable instant death mechanic is high skill level?

    And no that isn't the only way healers aren't needed. A significant part of the complains about healers, is that very often healers end up in PUG's where they aren't a useful part of the team. They are just there because the queue required it.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    In other critique about the strike, people claim dungeons don't matter at all, since they are so easy they aren't "real content". And now, making sure you avoid a few easily avoidable instant death mechanic is high skill level?

    And no that isn't the only way healers aren't needed. A significant part of the complains about healers, is that very often healers end up in PUG's where they aren't a useful part of the team. They are just there because the queue required it.
    honestly. i have the 2k mentor pony. and in my experience. 9/10 times that dungeon causes massive issues. i cannot count how many times i got sucked in becuse a healer left who couldnt cope with the mecanics. or the amount of people deing to them. so realllllllllllly dont agree here
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    honestly. i have the 2k mentor pony. and in my experience. 9/10 times that dungeon causes massive issues. i cannot count how many times i got sucked in becuse a healer left who couldnt cope with the mecanics. or the amount of people deing to them. so realllllllllllly dont agree here
    As a mentor you could have explained they should look at the target circle under the butterflies, and then don't stand in front of them. The only time I saw people messing that up is when they very obviously didn't notice the small target circles.

    And also, focussing on these very rare bossfights where a few players die to a mechanics that esuna could have saved them from, just proves the point of the healer strike. Healers shouldn't have to queue up for DF and hope to get one of the few dungeons where they could be useful if they get people who weren't explained how to avoid one instant death mechanic. Healers should be a equally important part of a team in any group content.
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  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    yes so basically the only way a healer isnt needed is if ur a bunch of premades with high skill level.
    No.

    Please see: Warrior
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