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  1. #471
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    CosmoBabylonia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    If a thread on Reddit is to be believed, a good portion of JP isn't very fond of the story. And yes ofc going to address the common argument that is brought up all the time - blah blah blah only people who are dissatisfied complain blah blah blah forums/reddit are haters blah. So? If enough people are upset including people who have liked HW-EW like myself, perhaps there is an issue?

    Some comment highlights include:

    - The overworld msq is on the level of sidequests. Honestly we should've let the Ascians kill everyone on this continent

    - When they said vacation, did they mean including to other games

    - Even if it's the starting point for the next 10 year saga did they have to go as far as copying 2.0's slog?

    and my personal favorite:

    - Yoshida's turtle shirt referred to this, huh?
    The Lizard ones are the best. Japanese BBS culture do be like that.
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  2. #472
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verathel View Post
    I don't mind that perception but standing menacingly on the sidelines for EVERYTHING so far is a bit aggravating. Should have whacked the First Promise and the two headed one ourselves to save us all the trouble.


    I wouldn't mind it, if it was only a perception. But we are exaclty that.
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  3. #473
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    My only hope is that while Stormblood when it released was considered pretty corny, it eventually grew on people (me included) and introduced some of the most beloved characters.

    Endwalker's ending is a VERY hard act to follow...so I'll give them a pass and let them cook...but that dinner better be delicious.
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  4. #474
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    My only hope is that while Stormblood when it released was considered pretty corny, it eventually grew on people (me included) and introduced some of the most beloved characters.

    Endwalker's ending is a VERY hard act to follow...so I'll give them a pass and let them cook...but that dinner better be delicious.
    They just had 40-50 hours to cook and we got nothing for our patience though? Stormblood didn't have the glaring problems DT has, in any case.
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  5. #475
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    I'm trying to be patience but every time the group splits and I get stuck cat sitting I sigh. The few times I was with someone else I was happy.
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  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlueRogue View Post
    Jesus reading the comments here is making me dread continuing the story and I'm not even at the halfway point.

    How could they drop the ball so hard on this, has this been addressed or acknowledged by the devs at all?
    This is pretty much what we are getting

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  7. #477
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    I was not a fan of 6.0 in hindsight, nor 6.X during it. I was hoping that with 7.0, even though the previous stuff didn't land for me and some of us weren't happy, we'd get to have a "clean slate" so to speak. You know, bygones be bygones, look to the future. Even if I'm not a fan of the gameplay changes, at least I can get immersed in the story, surely.

    I never could have imagined it going this off the rails. I didn't bring out my lorebooks to cross reference material until LEVEL 97, over 30 hours in.

    Somewhere, Theodric weeps, I'm sure of that.
    I can't really blame anyone for wanting to be optimistic, but at the same time the writing was on the wall for all of this for a while that indicated 6.0's flaws weren't a flub but a new direction they were actively choosing to take. DT turned out exactly how I knew it would, and I was under no illusions about where things were heading after what we were shown in EW. The only thing that does surprise me is the outcry against Wuk's character, because I feel like what we saw her of in the trailer alone was more than enough to tell you exactly what we were going to get. The only thing missing was a "believe it!", and I don't know where fans were looking if they expected anything else.

    But the juvenile writing, goofy slapstick, flat characterisation and blunt-force parable preaching were all right there in Endwalker, and only grew more glaring with each Void patch. It was just propped up by characters that had the benefit of being developed during the game's zenith who were beloved by the community, and the years of anticipation and build-up the story had behind it. Without those factors doing the heavy lifting and painting over the cracks, you get... well, this. Wuk herself isn't even really the problem, just a symptom of it.
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  8. #478
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzillaxpowerrangers View Post
    I get stuck cat sitting I sigh. The few times I was with someone else I was happy.


    Bro... so harsh...
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  9. #479
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I can't really blame anyone for wanting to be optimistic, but at the same time the writing was on the wall for all of this for a while that indicated 6.0's flaws weren't a flub but a new direction they were actively choosing to take. DT turned out exactly how I knew it would, and I was under no illusions about where things were heading after what we were shown in EW. The only thing that does surprise me is the outcry against Wuk's character, because I feel like what we saw her of in the trailer alone was more than enough to tell you exactly what we were going to get. The only thing missing was a "believe it!", and I don't know where fans were looking if they expected anything else.

    But the juvenile writing, goofy slapstick, flat characterisation and blunt-force parable preaching were all right there in Endwalker, and only grew more glaring with each Void patch. It was just propped up by characters that had the benefit of being developed during the game's zenith who were beloved by the community, and the years of anticipation and build-up the story had behind it. Without those factors doing the heavy lifting and painting over the cracks, you get... well, this. Wuk herself isn't even really the problem, just a symptom of it.
    I really hate how much I agree with you. I have a feeling that if Square doesn't address this with a liveletter within a month, a lot of fans will be jumping ship that feel like they haven't been heard in the last 2 years. The amount of people saying "I'm done with this" and the amount saying "Let's see where it goes" seems to be a lot more equal than it used to be.
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  10. #480
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larom View Post
    I really hate how much I agree with you. I have a feeling that if Square doesn't address this with a liveletter within a month, a lot of fans will be jumping ship that feel like they haven't been heard in the last 2 years. The amount of people saying "I'm done with this" and the amount saying "Let's see where it goes" seems to be a lot more equal than it used to be.
    Not just for this, either. That's kinda the way people have been leaning for a lot of things. Job Design, content design, even character design. I wonder if any of the team that gave us the best parts of the game are even around anymore, cause man, does it feel like the only one putting out high quality work is the sound team. Even if some of the choices are... interesting in DT.
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