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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    It's plenty consistent lol. You're just not happy somebody doesn't think exactly like all of you do. Most of you haven't done any hard content (I checked your achievements on lodestone) yet go off on healing like it's soooo easy.

    I dint know at what point I ever insinuated you were toxic eliete raiders lol. Feel free to quote that
    You checked my achievements on loadstone, hmmm yes well so you know this isn’t my raiding main, want me to link my main logs sweetie I do plenty of hard content. Regardless why should you disqualify me for your perceived belief I don’t do enough hard content, there is plenty of anti strikers who don’t do hard content but you won’t call them out. If I need to do hard content to say healers are bad why don’t they need to do hard content to say healers are good. You are both saying we are too good and not good enough. There is no consistency. Engage with the actual substance of our arguments not decide whether we are “allowed to have an opinion” based on your assessment of you belief in our skills.

    This is the whole problem, I’ve had people log stalk me and call me a casual who needs to do hard content to understand healers, then when I linked my real logs they said I was obviously too good at the game to have an opinion. At no time did they actually engage with the substance of my arguments

    So I say again, pick a damn lane, call me a casual, call me a toxic raider I don’t care just engage with the substance of my arguments or quit randomly deciding that an entire group fits your narrow views so you can ignore them

    Quote Originally Posted by Cercie View Post
    You're not wrong. While people do say they like to try new things, it's been proven that the majority will still jump on something that has familiar elements more quickly than something that is vastly different. The hard part is finding a balance between expanding on a familiar concept and adding enough to distinguish it apart.

    Without Yoshi P at the helm, FF14 would be in trouble because SE has many issues that have lead it into near financial ruin multiple times. We're just in a position where we have a team of devs that do care and while they may not immediately please everyone. they don't deserve the same treatment as many others in the industry who clearly don't care about their player base.

    Any one person who believes they can do a better job should take a moment to realize that if they became a dev they would immediately incite the wrath of people just like them for things they themselves may of not been a part of. But this mob mentality doesn't care about that and it doesn't discriminate between who's at fault and who isn't. It's just become, if you're a dev we're entitled to treat you horribly.

    There are many nuances to it which is why anyone who wants a positive outcome should be leading by example. Not dehumanizing them simply to justify their own toxic and entitled attitude. We're better than that.
    You are totally missing the point, we aren’t saying “we are better than the stupid devs listen to us” we are saying “we have given you mounds of feedback as to our belief in why the healers aren’t engaging enough and have some evidence via lucky’s censuses that the healer role is haemorrhaging players can you please explain your design decisions more clearly and explain why you won’t acknowledge our feedback rather than making dismissive comments like “go play ultimate””
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-01-2024 at 05:39 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess