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    Johnnwhite3's Avatar
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    Leion Paraflax
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    I personally look at the additional tank sustains as a way for the tanks to get by while dealing with lesser-than healers. I cant tell you how many awful healers you find even in roulettes. Scholars especially are bad outside of high end content. cant wipe if you're constantly healed. Heal
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnwhite3 View Post
    I personally look at the additional tank sustains as a way for the tanks to get by while dealing with lesser-than healers. I cant tell you how many awful healers you find even in roulettes. Scholars especially are bad outside of high end content. cant wipe if you're constantly healed. Heal
    I mean bad tanks exist too but you don't see DPS and Healers getting insane mitigation to compensate against an awful tank dying. IDK why healers are ruled out as being okay to remove from play, at that point just make everyone a DPS that can Tank and Heal.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I mean bad tanks exist too but you don't see DPS and Healers getting insane mitigation to compensate against an awful tank dying. IDK why healers are ruled out as being okay to remove from play, at that point just make everyone a DPS that can Tank and Heal.
    Healers can literally do dungeons with 3 DPS with wall to wall. a tank who doesn't mitigate would still be able to get through a dungeon, just like a healer who doesn't heal. Having both a healer and a tank is pointless because both have so many strong CD's that it becomes pointless to have both.

    The issue is more then "tank removes healer from play".
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Healers can literally do dungeons with 3 DPS with wall to wall. a tank who doesn't mitigate would still be able to get through a dungeon, just like a healer who doesn't heal. Having both a healer and a tank is pointless because both have so many strong CD's that it becomes pointless to have both.

    The issue is more then "tank removes healer from play".
    I mean, as much as I agree that Healer healing capacity is very strong and can make a dungeon group near immortal, tank got more dps and also don't have mana bar to care about (Unless DRK to some extend)
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnwhite3 View Post
    I personally look at the additional tank sustains as a way for the tanks to get by while dealing with lesser-than healers. I cant tell you how many awful healers you find even in roulettes. Scholars especially are bad outside of high end content. cant wipe if you're constantly healed. Heal
    I’d like 50% targeted mitigation I can give to a tank every 25 seconds, the stun on holy to never drop off and for tanks DPS combos to be 1111111111

    I mean I don’t want to be walled by a bad tank, think of me for once
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess