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  1. #101
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    It's pretty simple, really. How fights are designed is a completely different issue from how you execute your actions. You'll generally find that good players on all roles aren't just focused on what's happening currently. They know what's going to happen multiple GCDs ahead of time. On-demand burst healing as implemented on jobs like WAR rewards players who lack anticipation and foresight. That's what I mean by proactive vs. reactive gameplay. It looks like you saw a word that you didn't like and went off on an unrelated tangent.
    You're stating the obvious and preaching to the choir here. Still doesn't tell me what point you're trying to make and even less how it's even related to what I said...
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  2. #102
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    The_User's Avatar
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    Character
    The Tank
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    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 63
    Self heal = estus flak.
    Anticipated mitigation= parry.

    One of these take skill while another doesn't.

    The current war is what it look like when player get in the boss room with a rechargeable super estus flak.
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  3. #103
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    Launched's Avatar
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    Rys Sol
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    Self heal = estus flak.
    Anticipated mitigation= parry.

    One of these take skill while another doesn't.

    The current war is what it look like when player get in the boss room with a rechargeable super estus flak.
    You know that WAR still has to mitigate damage to be able to survive to use its healing, right? It doesn't just automatically survive tankbusters.
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  4. #104
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    Self heal = estus flak.
    Anticipated mitigation= parry.

    One of these take skill while another doesn't.

    The current war is what it look like when player get in the boss room with a rechargeable super estus flak.
    Estus Flask actually means dps downtime, which Warrior should have on it's self heals tbh.
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  7. #105
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    The_User's Avatar
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    The Tank
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    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    You know that WAR still has to mitigate damage to be able to survive to use its healing, right? It doesn't just automatically survive tankbusters.
    You got a heal baked in your most frequently mitigation. Even your party mit got a regen.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Estus Flask actually means dps downtime, which Warrior should have on it's self heals tbh.
    It isn't called SUPER estus flask for no reason.
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    Last edited by The_User; 06-26-2024 at 05:08 AM.

  8. #106
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    Character
    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Crazy how DRK gets its second self sustain button in DT at level 92. It only took 4 expansions later
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  9. #107
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Crazy how DRK gets its second self sustain button in DT at level 92. It only took 4 expansions later
    I honestly quite like it. Makes the unique Def buff have more oompth over like it being the other rampart.
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  10. #108
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    Johnnwhite3's Avatar
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    Character
    Leion Paraflax
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I personally look at the additional tank sustains as a way for the tanks to get by while dealing with lesser-than healers. I cant tell you how many awful healers you find even in roulettes. Scholars especially are bad outside of high end content. cant wipe if you're constantly healed. Heal
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  11. #109
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnwhite3 View Post
    I personally look at the additional tank sustains as a way for the tanks to get by while dealing with lesser-than healers. I cant tell you how many awful healers you find even in roulettes. Scholars especially are bad outside of high end content. cant wipe if you're constantly healed. Heal
    I mean bad tanks exist too but you don't see DPS and Healers getting insane mitigation to compensate against an awful tank dying. IDK why healers are ruled out as being okay to remove from play, at that point just make everyone a DPS that can Tank and Heal.
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  12. #110
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Character
    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnwhite3 View Post
    I personally look at the additional tank sustains as a way for the tanks to get by while dealing with lesser-than healers. I cant tell you how many awful healers you find even in roulettes. Scholars especially are bad outside of high end content. cant wipe if you're constantly healed. Heal
    I’d like 50% targeted mitigation I can give to a tank every 25 seconds, the stun on holy to never drop off and for tanks DPS combos to be 1111111111

    I mean I don’t want to be walled by a bad tank, think of me for once
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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