Privacy from third party sites

[Reimmi]

If you are checking logs you are kind of a psycho stalker. I dont blame people for hiding it from people like you. Let people do the fight and then if they are obviously not doing well kick em? But to look at everything someone does ingame just because they joined your party is creepy.

Not really, i think its basic recruitment tactics, like a job interview to get a background check on someone you've never met before to not waste your time

It's different when you harass someone over it, but i see absolutely nothing wrong with using them to gauge the general skill level of a player for your statics

[KisaiTenshi]

I've always found it weird how these websites are automatically opt-in. At least they could've used "anonymous" to hide people who haven't willingly added their character to the website?

Then they wouldn't be valuable to advertise RMT trash on it. Right next to ads for Final Fantasy XIV expansions. I wonder if they realize it.

Square Enix could break it so easily just by changing one thing in the netcode but who knows if that's even on their radar.

[KageTokage]

The unfortunate reality is that opting out is liable to make even more people judgmental of you because they'll leap to the conclusion that you're trying to cover up mediocre gameplay so you can't win either way.

[Keldion]

The unfortunate reality is that opting out is liable to make even more people judgmental of you because they'll leap to the conclusion that you're trying to cover up mediocre gameplay.

Judgment can cut both ways. I wouldn't waste my time with groups who base decisions solely off of logs with no in-game vetting.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Judgment can cut both ways. I wouldn't waste my time with groups who base decisions solely off of logs with no in-game vetting.

PF is indeed interesting when it comes to assessing players. Especially in regards to how clear parties are run. The only time I openly judged someone’s gameplay is when we had a MCH who refused to do damage - despite being ranged - while they moved and was doing less damage than our tanks. The only advice I could give them was to wait for someone to carry them to a clear and to prioritize getting the mechanics down since they refused to adjust their gameplay loop. But other than that as long as we clear we clear.

[Reimmi]

Judgment can cut both ways. I wouldn't waste my time with groups who base decisions solely off of logs with no in-game vetting.

Most successful statics do both
Check logs then trial the player to see how they react to mechanics
If a dps is doing less damage than a healer then they're a waste of a slot regardless of if they can do mechanics.

Not that there's anything wrong with being unable to do good damage- but you should NOT expect to be able to get carried in the games hardest content.

[Flay_wind]

Eh, tomestone is made by Savage+ raiders for Savage+ raiders. It's a self contained bubble more or less.

[tsuchii]

It's stupid that one still has to do that to opt out tbh. It shouldn't be public if you did not put it out yourself.

[Its_Kazzy_D]

If you are checking logs you are kind of a psycho stalker. I dont blame people for hiding it from people like you. Let people do the fight and then if they are obviously not doing well kick em? But to look at everything someone does ingame just because they joined your party is creepy.

Yeah tbh I don't like to join groups that require my logs. If we get the kill, isn't that enough?

[Minali]

Not really

If i see someone hiding parses, I will immediately assume that they are very bad

I hid my profile on fflogs ages ago because it's private information only meant for the other 3, 7 or 23 people in the party I am in, and because I don't want to be associated with a third party tool like that. But of course you are free to assume whatever you want if your absurd obsession with other strangers' perfomance demands it. Should I ever get into hardcore content and people would want to know how I play, they're welcome to run a duty with me and parse that, consentual n stuff. (This would also be a much more accurate representative info, considering my current stats are from me running duly roulettes sleep deprived at 1 am and such...)

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Thanks for the info! Today I learned about that code from tomestone, didn't know it was available for fflogs as well. This would have saved me the effort of making an account and adding all my characters specifically for opting out of that... They really should add this to their FAQs, or make it more obvious there. When I looked up how to opt out, this wasn't mentioned anywhere. Question will be how this is going to work out when you hide your lodestone profile completely, but from what I know the tomestone people are going to respect that (once they figure out the technical ways to do it). I hope the other site will do that as well.

Maybe it's me being from Europe, where privacy is considered an important thing by law (see GDPR), but it always baffles me how little people think about privacy when developing tools like this. It doesn't matter if "you have anything to hide", it's personal data and simply nobody else's business unless you personally decide otherwise. You don't leave your appartment door wide open either when you feel you "have nothing to hide", just because you are not doing anything obviously illegal in there. No, you close it, because what you are doing isn't anybody else's concern.