Please, let me just turn off glamours

[Aneshda]

Honestly, I never knew how important it is to some that others can see what they're wearing until I came across this thread.
Why aren't people talking about all the mods that change the appearance of items, items that others might also wear making them appear as wearing something maybe not as family friendly.
Who knows, maybe I've played with people who sees my character as someone who does BDSM while running a dungeon.
Oh the horror.

Most players don't know about Mods. I know they exist and I don't care, and that's how it should be if there is a small extra option in this game. Turn off glamours. No big deal.
I remember the first time I went into the Troja Dungeon for the MSQ... 1 female Miqo'te in a bikini, 1 male Au'Ra half naked with Summer's Flame pareo and nothing else.
It ruined my entire experience / immersion in that dungeon at that point in the story.
Is it fair to other players, to ruin their game with ugly Glamour? I don't think so. I see it even as a Win / Win situation. Everyone wears what they always wear and some off us just turns it off and see others in normal Armor.
Oh and to those who writes that it is unfair to hide their Glam, no it is not.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Most players don't know about Mods. I know they exist and I don't care, and that's how it should be if there is a small extra option in this game. Turn off glamours. No big deal.
I remember the first time I went into the Troja Dungeon for the MSQ... 1 female Miqo'te in a bikini, 1 male Au'Ra half naked with Summer's Flame pareo and nothing else.
It ruined my entire experience / immersion in that dungeon at that point in the story.
Is it fair to other players, to ruin their game with ugly Glamour? I don't think so. I see it even as a Win / Win situation. Everyone wears what they always wear and some off us just turns it off and see others in normal Armor.
Oh and to those who writes that it is unfair to hide their Glam, no it is not.

They aren't ruining the game. They are wearing clothing approved by the devs and put into the game to be worn.

But this has really bothered you for some time now, hasn't it?

But that is what the most Players have asked for, to dress like that. That's why I do all new stuff in Game alone. I don't want to see nacked male Chars with B2 Boots in new Dungeons or in MSQ. That is disgusting and SE should rethink their age restrictions for this Game. It should be 16+ or even 18+ in all Countrys and not 13+. I would not let my children Play this Game, even it's from 13+ here.

I agree, people like you should do things alone. lol

[Aneshda]

They aren't ruining the game. They are wearing clothing approved by the devs and put into the game to be worn.

But this has really bothered you for some time now, hasn't it?



I agree, people like you should do things alone. lol

You are the best proof of a player who immediately feels attacked or spoken to and has zero tolerance for the wishes of others or even other opinions. You could also call it selfishness. Choose for yourself what suits you best.

[ZephyrMenodora]

You are the best proof of a player who immediately feels attacked or spoken to and has zero tolerance for the wishes of others or even other opinions. You could also call it selfishness. Choose for yourself what suits you best.

LOL. I'm not the one who ranted about LGBT and then said that mutual respect would be letting me have a toggle to make sure they are all dressed traditionally. I also haven't ranted for months about men in 2B boots. This topic to be frank is not an issue to me at all outside forum topics like this because I understand that people in MMOs dress how they like, and their self expression has nothing to do with my feelings or tastes.

[Aneshda]

LOL. I'm not the one who ranted about LGBT and then said that mutual respect would be letting me have a toggle to make sure they are all dressed traditionally. I also haven't ranted for months about men in 2B boots. This topic to be frank is not an issue to me at all outside forum topics like this because I understand that people in MMOs dress how they like, and their self expression has nothing to do with my feelings or tastes.

So are you actually just here to troll players who have a different opinion to you? To sum it up briefly, it's OK for everyone to wear whatever he/she/it wants.
It's OK for others to ruin the MSQ with their choice of clothing. It is NOT OK for others to have a different opinion to certain people here.
Likewise, it is NOT OK for players to want to play this game normally and not as a Second Life simulation. It is NOT OK for players to want an option to hide certain glamour.
Because it is really mean that these players don't want to see what others want to force on them. We all pretend quite hypocritically how tolerant we are and not at all selfish.
Because everyone has to see what you are wearing, no matter how ugly and inappropriate it is, and everyone has to accept it.
While you cannot accept at all that others do not want to see your ugly clothes. With that in mind, good night.

[ZephyrMenodora]

So are you actually just here to troll players who have a different opinion to you? To sum it up briefly, it's OK for everyone to wear whatever he/she/it wants.
It's OK for others to ruin the MSQ with their choice of clothing. It is NOT OK for others to have a different opinion to certain people here.
Likewise, it is NOT OK for players to want to play this game normally and not as a Second Life simulation. It is NOT OK for players to want an option to hide certain glamour.
Because it is really mean that these players don't want to see what others want to force on them. We all pretend quite hypocritically how tolerant we are and not at all selfish.
Because everyone has to see what you are wearing, no matter how ugly and inappropriate it is, and everyone has to accept it.
While you cannot accept at all that others do not want to see your ugly clothes. With that in mind, good night.

You sound trigged.

[Aneshda]

You sound trigged.

Mr. Troll, you can't trigger me. That's why you're here, to annoy others so that they get angry or upset. But you'd have to try much harder to do that.
Maybe I should just put you on my ignore list like all the other trolls...

[Sjol]

To sum it up briefly, it's OK for everyone to wear whatever he/she/it wants.

Within the constrains set forth by the game, absolutely.

It's OK for others to ruin the MSQ with their choice of clothing.

Not sure how they ruined your MSQ? Did they harass you? Them choosing to look a certain way is just as valid as yours. Could they say you ruined their experience with your appearance? Is there an absolute standard you can point to that says, "this is okay, and this is not?"

It is NOT OK for others to have a different opinion to certain people here.
It is NOT OK for players to want to play this game normally and not as a Second Life simulation.
It is NOT OK for players to want an option to hide certain glamour.

You have a different opinion. You've expressed it several times. And you can want all sorts of things and other people can want for other things not to exist. What you're seeing is that people are disagreeing with you, not silencing you. If what you want is to espouse your opinion without opposition, then a public forum is not what you want.

Because it is really mean that these players don't want to see what others want to force on them.

We all pretend quite hypocritically how tolerant we are and not at all selfish.

Because everyone has to see what you are wearing, no matter how ugly and inappropriate it is, and everyone has to accept it.

While you cannot accept at all that others do not want to see your ugly clothes.

Force on you? The existence of things you don't like in your field of vision is not forcing anything on you. You are welcome to avoid public spaces so that you can avoid all the people who offend you. That's 100% within your power. You're welcome to play this game as a single-player game.

But asking the company to make it so that you don't have to see queer men or women isn't really all that different from asking them to make it, so you don't have to see dark-skinned people either. Erasure is a very real path to dehumanization, and I really hope SE realizes one isn't that far from the other.

[Aneshda]

Within the constrains set forth by the game, absolutely.

Not sure how they ruined your MSQ? Did they harass you? Them choosing to look a certain way is just as valid as yours. Could they say you ruined their experience with your appearance? Is there an absolute standard you can point to that says, "this is okay, and this is not?"

You have a different opinion. You've expressed it several times. And you can want all sorts of things and other people can want for other things not to exist. What you're seeing is that people are disagreeing with you, not silencing you. If what you want is to espouse your opinion without opposition, then a public forum is not what you want.

Force on you? The existence of things you don't like in your field of vision is not forcing anything on you. You are welcome to avoid public spaces so that you can avoid all the people who offend you. That's 100% within your power. You're welcome to play this game as a single-player game.

But asking the company to make it so that you don't have to see queer men or women isn't really all that different from asking them to make it, so you don't have to see dark-skinned people either. Erasure is a very real path to dehumanization, and I really hope SE realizes one isn't that far from the other.

What the Heck are you even talking about? You will not Put words into my Mouth or even pretend that I have wrote them. Where is that Bold Text comming from even?
Tell me, why are you so obsessed with every player seeing your glamour?
Why do you think every one of the 20+ million players here thinks your glamour is appropriate?
Why does it bother you if others don't want to see your glamour and can change it with a click in the options?
You wouldn't even know. So what's the problem? And please don't come to me with your suppression or even erasure drama.
I'll say it again, I don't care what you wear, whether you put panties on your head as a hat and dye it pink.
And no one else should care if players can choose not to see those pink panties on your head. <----- THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE!
Freedom is when you can choose what you wear and others can choose whether they want to see it or not.

[CerusSerenade]

So are you actually just here to troll players who have a different opinion to you? To sum it up briefly, it's OK for everyone to wear whatever he/she/it wants.
It's OK for others to ruin the MSQ with their choice of clothing. It is NOT OK for others to have a different opinion to certain people here.
Likewise, it is NOT OK for players to want to play this game normally and not as a Second Life simulation. It is NOT OK for players to want an option to hide certain glamour.
Because it is really mean that these players don't want to see what others want to force on them. We all pretend quite hypocritically how tolerant we are and not at all selfish.
Because everyone has to see what you are wearing, no matter how ugly and inappropriate it is, and everyone has to accept it.
While you cannot accept at all that others do not want to see your ugly clothes. With that in mind, good night.

Oh you can tell "the left" lives rent free in their head.

Honey, this is an MMO, this has ALWAYS been how it is. People dress how they like to. Always have, always will.