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    SynysterBlitz's Avatar
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    Not at a bad Idea at all.. now do you have to be a in a party of how many people for this effect to take place??
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icecylee View Post
    Not sure I agree 100% with the bonus per class you list (I'd probably put crit on LNC, HP on MRD, mdef on GLA, MP on CNJ and MACC on THM), but the idea itself is sound and I'd very much like to see it put in place over what we have currently.
    I thought that the buff should really benefit all classes equally, thats why I didn't go MACC for THM, it only really benefits one class, mp bonus benefits all classes.

    Plus I thought TP generation was more interesting than crit for LNC. (perhaps overpowered though?)

    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Not at a bad Idea at all.. now do you have to be a in a party of how many people for this effect to take place??
    Hard to say really you could have it as low as 2 people, that's up to SE to decide I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi-Roku View Post
    EDIT: The only way I can see this being beneficial is if the endgame dungeons could theoretically be attempted and cleared by less than a full party due to the nature and potency of the class buffs.
    Hopefully not, Ideally the buffs that replace the existing system would be similar to Strength in Numbers.

    I wouldn't want it to make the game easier, it's already far too easy as is, and if it did have that effect hopefully SE would retune aspects of dungeons to compensate for the changes.
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    Isilgeim Ahtsaeswyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Hopefully not, Ideally the buffs that replace the existing system would be similar to Strength in Numbers.

    I wouldn't want it to make the game easier, it's already far too easy as is, and if it did have that effect hopefully SE would retune aspects of dungeons to compensate for the changes.
    You're kinda missing my point in its entirety though - there is little reason to introduce these class-specific auras and doing so only introduces more problems than it solves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icecylee View Post
    And yeah I can't imagine this would actually put a stop to class stacking, but as more classes come out I think it would be a vastly more interesting system than comradery/strength in numbers (which is kind of boring).
    The actual problem is that the party bonus in any form is not really so much "boring" but is "pointless" as-is: it could be removed tomorrow and absolutely nothing would change about how the game is played. I've never needed 'at least four or always eight' people for an XP run (because while the bonus is nice it is just that, a bonus), I'm fairly certain we can do Darkhold with just six people now, and the Primals require eight so the fights are more or less tuned to the bonus. And even ignoring that, I'm not sure how giving classes their own specific-type auras that don't stack makes anything more interesting, with the exception of them actually being very potent.

    The way to make the auras interesting is to have them be powerful enough so that you can make gear decisions and changes based off of them, because then it allows for more options and viability to gear. I can't ever imagine using a Sibold's Reach over an Ifrit's Battleaxe because the gains (+10 Attack Power) aren't worth the losses (-1 damage, no +Fire Resistance, and then a whopping -20 Accuracy), even with the current Strength in Numbers buff. But then if I can go "huh, my static has an ARC in it, that should raise my accuracy high enough to use the other axe," then bam, that's a benefit to having individualized auras, and then you'd be able to use all kinds of wacky statted gear that you may never use "alone in a white room" so to speak.
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