House availability on Dynamis

[Impia]

now i get that you're trying to lead people to where there is housing available but as i've stated previously before the world visit system is just horrendous in its current state and needs to be revised and revisited if its to be a viable system in junction with people continuing to play with friends and so does the queuing system for it also need to be revised.
and i get it, its tiring dealing with all these complaints, fights, and promised solutions with no end in sight but i personally believe that if they just designed a completely separate housing system specifically for single player owners that allows for full customization of size this would eliminate the desire for the "neighborhood PVP" we all hate dealing with. not only would this probably free up a bunch of those neighborhoods in the ward system but it would satisfy a bigger number of players that just want to have their own nice place to decorate an show off to their friends or invite guildmates too etc. without needing to sacrifice convenience of where they play with their friends and guild

I think what Jojoya is doing is just making it very clear where the houses are, new player or not. This is the housing forum, everyone here who doesn't have a house wants one. Many of us have advocated continuously for Dynamis' housing as a solution for those who have expressed their frustration with the lack of opportunity to obtain their desired plot. This is a rare opportunity. If you really do want your plot badly enough, relying on DC travel is a small price to pay.

[ShadowyZero]

This is the housing forum, everyone here who doesn't have a house wants one. Many of us have advocated continuously for Dynamis' housing as a solution for those who have expressed their frustration with the lack of opportunity to obtain their desired plot. This is a rare opportunity. If you really do want your plot badly enough, relying on DC travel is a small price to pay.

i already understand that there is housing available on other or newly formed worlds/datacenters but some people have been playing for months and years an not gotten a house they've wanted for so long but in the meantime have already established a home on their current worlds with groups and friends we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences when we all pitch in with subscriptions every month or every 3-6 months for some we're not just pencil pushers or npc's dawdling mindlessly but we're consumers and paying customers if we have concerns that's why they need to be addressed don't force your fellow player to settle on anything or to just give up on better ideas or solutions that's a quitter attitude its okay to be frustrated because this situation is frustrating especially so when its purposely a divisive thing instead of being something that ALL should have cause we all pay the same fees (some go an extra mile ofc with the mogstation goods and other merch but thats over generalizing an whole other can of worms which shouldn't matter in this context anyways)
this thing of telling other people where they should go and how they should play is the exact same thing as that old additive of "you can lead a horse to water, but that doesn't mean they'll drink it." in otherwords its an exercise in futility an you'll never convince people to see world visiting as this novel or gold standard idea it just won't happen especially if there is a better alternative that could be implemented.

[Impia]

i already understand that there is housing available on other or newly formed worlds/datacenters but some people have been playing for months and years an not gotten a house they've wanted for so long but in the meantime have already established a home on their current worlds with groups and friends we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences when we all pitch in with subscriptions every month or every 3-6 months for some we're not just pencil pushers or npc's dawdling mindlessly but we're consumers and paying customers if we have concerns that's why they need to be addressed don't force your fellow player to settle on anything or to just give up on better ideas or solutions that's a quitter attitude its okay to be frustrated because this situation is frustrating especially so when its purposely a divisive thing instead of being something that ALL should have cause we all pay the same fees (some go an extra mile ofc with the mogstation goods and other merch but thats over generalizing an whole other can of worms which shouldn't matter in this context anyways)
this thing of telling other people where they should go and how they should play is the exact same thing as that old additive of "you can lead a horse to water, but that doesn't mean they'll drink it." in otherwords its an exercise in futility an you'll never convince people to see world visiting as this novel or gold standard idea it just won't happen especially if there is a better alternative that could be implemented.

How does any of that warrant this adverse response to someone just telling people where the houses are and how to get them?


I'm sorry but all the suggestions and wishes and fairy dust in the world won't change our immediate reality. People who want a house any time soon need to work within the framework we have *now* You can argue as much as you want, but if you want it badly enough then that's the sacrifice you have to make. Are you really going to advocate for inaction in the hopes that maybe, someday, something might change to make it easier to get a house without moving? Because even if it does, you could be on the hook for another few years and it may just never happen.



It's not like those friends are just going to disappear if you transfer, I see my friends from Ultros all the time and literally nothing has changed.

[ShadowyZero]

I'm sorry but all the suggestions and wishes and fairy dust in the world won't change our immediate reality. People who want a house any time soon need to work within the framework we have *now* You can argue as much as you want, but if you want it badly enough then that's the sacrifice you have to make. Are you really going to advocate for inaction in the hopes that maybe, someday, something might change to make it easier to get a house without moving? Because even if it does, you could be on the hook for another few years and it may just never happen.

See this is what i meant by quitter attitude you're giving up without even trying just basically saying "bite the bullet or get nothing at all" i'm trying to advocate for something everyone can have without restriction and without needing to inconvenience yourself or others.
you might not like it or call it annoying but persistence is the key into being heard and having your concerns looked at and while i know this thread is only on the housing topic lets just for an example look at the Healer strike movement that was started and became trending this wouldn't have happened or gotten so much coverage in so short a time if people hadn't been persistent enough and i am 100% certain this strike movement has reached the eyes or ears of a developer by now who can make it a talking point at their next meeting etc. and thats all that really needs to happen for housing too is just for it to be brought up to the developers attention so that they can consider it an option they may not go thru with it thats fine if they announce that they can't thru interview or other media outlets that would be more than enough to make their stance clear but until such notice we should openly continue to bring it up at every opportunity.

[Impia]

See this is what i meant by quitter attitude you're giving up without even trying just basically saying "bite the bullet or get nothing at all" i'm trying to advocate for something everyone can have without restriction and without needing to inconvenience yourself or others.
you might not like it or call it annoying but persistence is the key into being heard and having your concerns looked at and while i know this thread is only on the housing topic lets just for an example look at the Healer strike movement that was started and became trending this wouldn't have happened or gotten so much coverage in so short a time if people hadn't been persistent enough and i am 100% certain this strike movement has reached the eyes or ears of a developer by now who can make it a talking point at their next meeting etc. and thats all that really needs to happen for housing too is just for it to be brought up to the developers attention so that they can consider it an option they may not go thru with it thats fine if they announce that they can't thru interview or other media outlets that would be more than enough to make their stance clear but until such notice we should openly continue to bring it up at every opportunity.

Then you and anyone else following this mindset will have to come to terms with missing out on having your pick of houses this week and may remain unhoused for longer than you expect. There will not be another opportunity like this for quite some time.

"Quitter?" I scrimped and saved and waited for years in a small for an opportunity, any opportunity. I bid on every medium and large that cropped up to no avail.

When Dynamis opened I saw that opportunity and transferred immediately, seizing my dream personal mansion on Shiro 46 and starting a small FC that now lives in Lav11. I did not quit, I took what was there.

[ShadowyZero]

"Quitter?" I scrimped and saved and waited for years in a small for an opportunity, any opportunity. I bid on every medium and large that cropped up to no avail..

perhaps you mistook what i meant by quitter, i'm sorry for the confusion let me try to explain, when i say that i mean it in the sense of just giving up on asking the developers to explore other means of house acquisition in favor for a system that would be more beneficial to all players not just the lucky few
you can still call it a pipe dream if you must but i want every player to enjoy this feature its fantastic maybe not the greatest in the world ofc but it still adds something extra to do and look at an or visit ingame other videogames of this caliber have achieved what i'm advocating for more or less so there is no excuse for why it can't be done here as well outside of maybe their infrastructure is worse off than we might think and can't handle or process that much weight but they've made no official comments otherwise so i don't think its an unreasonable request to be made until they just outright tell us themselves its not feasible or achievable which they have not so i'll continue to ask for it til then.

[Impia]

perhaps you mistook what i meant by quitter, i'm sorry for the confusion let me try to explain, when i say that i mean it in the sense of just giving up on asking the developers to explore other means of house acquisition in favor for a system that would be more beneficial to all players not just the lucky few
you can still call it a pipe dream if you must but i want every player to enjoy this feature its fantastic maybe not the greatest in the world ofc but it still adds something extra to do and look at an or visit ingame other videogames of this caliber have achieved what i'm advocating for more or less so there is no excuse for why it can't be done here as well outside of maybe their infrastructure is worse off than we might think and can't handle or process that much weight but they've made no official comments otherwise so i don't think its an unreasonable request to be made until they just outright tell us themselves its not feasible or achievable which they have not so i'll continue to ask for it til then.

I don't think you should give up either, but I don't think that a thread that breaks down the info for people hopping ship to the new world in hopes of securing their homes is quite the right place for this. I would support a dedicated thread rallying your sentiment, but again, we must also do what we can within our circumstances until such time as things actually change. Your only guarantee is what you yourself decide to do next.

[Jojoya]

we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences

As much as I agree with your general sentiment here, that doesn't turn the housing system into what players should have access to. Outside of the rumors that Housing Mirage will allow players to change interior sizes (which could be a mistranslation), SE is showing no signs they intend to update housing in a way to make houses more accessible to every player regardless of home world.

There comes a point when people need to deal with the reality of a situation instead of waiting for what they want it to be. If a NA player feels that a house ownership is important to their game play, the best data center to get one is Dynamis.

[ShadowyZero]

As much as I agree with your general sentiment here, that doesn't turn the housing system into what players should have access to.

and you would be right on that, that screaming no matter how loudly we all want a restriction-less house won't necessitate implementation will become reality and i do appreciate you for making this information readily available to players who are new and might want to try this feature out or for those less fortunate who've waited more than what should be acceptable by a paying customer/consumer.

but thats why i feel so strongly about it, there shouldn't be any waiting, no restrictions on size or location, and everyone should be able to own/buy one regardless of their preferred server or server they want to share with their friends and build up a community on etc.

lets not hang up the towel just yet until they finally tell us it will never happen or they're too technically limited to make it work then i'd say GG we tried time to move on to better pastures an enjoy other things etc.

i have my own small plot an i am content with it but if a better option became available to me i'd happily hand over my small to someone who desires it or needs it would be nice if we could relinquish deeds to our friends/tenants.

[Jojoya]

lets not hang up the towel just yet until they finally tell us it will never happen or they're too technically limited to make it work then i'd say GG we tried time to move on to better pastures an enjoy other things etc.

I'm definitely not giving up on asking for it.

But how many people want to keep waiting years for a maybe that doesn't happen? I'd rather make the best use of what is available than deny myself completely hoping that things will change 5 years from now. If SE does decide to change things, it will not happen overnight.

Just speculation and not to be taken seriously by anyone: they've called Cosmic Exploration the new Restoration. Is that just in the sense of it's more of a community oriented effort or is it because it will be leading up to new housing in 8.x? If the later, "cosmic" is fairly broad where the Firmament was a specific location. Could it be an instanced system more along the lines of what we've seen in other games? I don't think I will ever give up my dream of seeing RIFT Dimensions added here. That housing system in the FFXIV universe with the FFXIV graphics style would be fabulous.

Yep, they even opened the new servers on the first day of a bidding cycle, so people that were there day 1 could bid right away. I think they’re on their second lotto right now.

Correct. I have several friends who picked up houses in the first lottery and they've been decorating them while waiting for Early Access.

The second lottery entry period ends tomorrow morning (NA time). Still a huge number of larges and mediums available on the 4 new worlds.