question about summoning in lore

[Bloody_Kenny]

Even the gods of the Dissidia games themselves don't bother with actually reaching across to other worlds, they just copy figures from them.

Actually (nerd mode on), Dissidia gods summon not copies, but real characters to help them. The memories of the OG Dissidia and 012 events are sealed into each character who participated in them, and only awaken when the character returns to the Dissidia world. These memories are the reason why NT happens, as Cosmos doesn't want them to disappear and her desire to protect these memories takes the form of Materia. A little nod to that is a flavor text from the "Wind-up Kefka" minion, as Y'shtola thinks the doll is "eerily familiar". That is because she has sealed memories of fighting him before.

[WhiteArchmage]

Actually (nerd mode on), Dissidia gods summon not copies, but real characters to help them. The memories of the OG Dissidia and 012 events are sealed into each character who participated in them, and only awaken when the character returns to the Dissidia world. These memories are the reason why NT happens, as Cosmos doesn't want them to disappear and her desire to protect these memories takes the form of Materia. A little nod to that is a flavor text from the "Wind-up Kefka" minion, as Y'shtola thinks the doll is "eerily familiar". That is because she has sealed memories of fighting him before.

As a fellow Dissidia nerd, it gets even more complicated. Basically, Dissidia 1 had the actual heroes and villains summoned from their respective universes, this got even more complicated with the sequels and prequels adding more information about the setting, explaining how and why some characters kept their memories while others didn't; but they all affirm that the heroes summoned are the actual people from said FF universes. It's only Dissidia NT's ending that puts forth that the heroes left their memories to be put into Mannikins for Materia and Spiritus to continue their unending fight in the World of Conflict, because it needs conflict to exist, unlike Opera Omnia's World of Respite which is its whole separate can of worms.

Basically, Dissidia exists in this bubble in which all the FF games are canon to Dissidia but Dissidia itself isn't canon to them.

Didn't Lightning end up in France? Isn't that how she started working for Louis Vuitton? (/s)

[Memories unlocked. Incoherent screaming]

[ShadowyZero]

Dissidia 1 had the actual heroes and villains summoned from their respective universes,

its actually even further complicated than that they are not the actual physical heroes themselves but are "memories" which were summoned from across the rift from all the many worlds and then those memories were shoved into whats called "mannequins" by Ex-death who accidentally discovered them when opening random gates an then told Chaos who was then convinced by Mateus that they would be good foot soldiers but it was much worse than that ofc because the memories slain by said mannequins were deemed forfeit by that very antagonistic dragon Shinryu lol
but basically Cosmos and Chaos' minions were considered "perfect" mannequins because they were embued with divine energy where as the other Mannequins are just soulless husks who mimic whatever figure they come in contact with. Cid of Lufenia replicated the same thing that cosmos had done an he created a special Mannequin which took on his former self which panicked Garland because he didn't want the perfect mannequins to know what they are lol and tried to dispose of him but prishe ruined his plan an then dragged the guy back to cosmos who then reached out to Cid who said that he was cool with it if he she wanted to make his copy self into a champion lmao

[Sacae]

its actually even further complicated than that they are not the actual physical heroes themselves but are "memories" which were summoned from across the rift from all the many worlds and then those memories were shoved into whats called "mannequins" by Ex-death who accidentally discovered them when opening random gates an then told Chaos who was then convinced by Mateus that they would be good foot soldiers but it was much worse than that ofc because the memories slain by said mannequins were deemed forfeit by that very antagonistic dragon Shinryu lol
but basically Cosmos and Chaos' minions were considered "perfect" mannequins because they were embued with divine energy where as the other Mannequins are just soulless husks who mimic whatever figure they come in contact with. Cid of Lufenia replicated the same thing that cosmos had done an he created a special Mannequin which took on his former self which panicked Garland because he didn't want the perfect mannequins to know what they are lol and tried to dispose of him but prishe ruined his plan an then dragged the guy back to cosmos who then reached out to Cid who said that he was cool with it if he she wanted to make his copy self into a champion lmao

God I love Dissidia LMFAO