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  1. #71
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Whether a person does or does not do high-end content is irrelevant. The only time it should be relevant is when they are speaking directly of that specific content. Classes will only be a matter of understanding them, and not all people who understand the jobs will do that high-end content. Equally, if a person with a poor understanding of healers is able to get by with absolutely no issues whatsoever in the content they are doing then this is a problem.

    Regardless of the level, be it normal mode or extreme, savage or ultimate... If an entire role is, or can be rendered moot then it is a problem - Whether the role is a tank, or a healer. All encounters should require a healer, and have some form of mechanic that healers need to engage with.

    If I can go into a dungeon right now, and have my entire existence rendered moot by a tank that is busy playing god then that is a problem. E.g., Bloodwhetting not being penalized in AoE situations is a problem. This near enough renders a healer irrelevant on the only threatening part of a dungeon. -- Dungeon bosses do very little damage, and said damage across the party is so sparse that in many cases passive HP regen everyone gets by default covers most of it anyway.

    Anyone saying you need to do xyz content before your complaints are valid are just being both dismissive and just doing the most disgusting form of appeal to accomplishment humanly possible, and I certainly hope any people being dismissive over this aren't subsequently getting upset over Yoshida's dismissal of "If you want engaging content, then go play ultimate" - Because they both effectively border on the same limited mentality.

    That being said, I don't think a healer strike will accomplish much in any scheme of things.
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  2. #72
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekh View Post
    This is you not understanding statistics
    How, exactly, does a missing image help us in understanding statistics?
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  3. #73
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Content Creators in regards to Healers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1aeu5GIY4

    Content Creators when Devs gut BLM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74EEXU-OEZo
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  4. #74
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    Azephia Dawn
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    605 out of how many players?
    that is a VERY small amount, even if you multiplied it by 100 or even 1000, it would be a small % of the over all player base.
    I have performed statistical wizardry:

    [FFXIV Content Creators Complaining about Healers Complaining] / [Total Registered FFXIV Accounts] = VERY SMALL NUMBER

    Therefore, we can agree that FFXIV Content Creators's opinions about the game are basically irrelevant and do not represent the majority.

    ——————————————

    Also, because I have gone through all the effort to develop this powerful statistical model, let's keep putting it to good use:
    • Number of "Kailea_Nagisa" Registered on This Forum: 1
    • FFXIV Total Active Users: A LOT
    1 / [Total Registered FFXIV Accounts] = VERY SMALL NUMBER

    Therefore, we can agree that your opinion is not important and that you should stop complaining.
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  5. #75
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    Shai Rae
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    Sweetie, your little forum strike isn't going to be a widespread game-changer like you think it is. We all are going to be enjoying the expansion, running trials, dungeons and roulette like normal. Why? Because know SE isn't going to cater to you. Folks want to play regardless. And there will always be healers ready to heal. This silly little endeavor is nothing more than the forum folks in their tiny little bubble that is not representative of the total healer player base. But please. Continue. When DT launches without a hitch and folks are running everything as normal, you all can continue to scream into the void while we all have a great time.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Sweetie, your little forum strike isn't going to be a widespread game-changer like you think it is.
    But it already managed to change the game.

    It got media attention, both from game journalist websites and content creators. It managed that in a week, where Years of more or less polite feedback since 2018 did not achieve Anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  7. #77
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    Kitiara Utmatar
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    I sit here watching this and for funsies queued dutyfinder with a smn since I was distracted by all these threads..... and in expert roulette had 3 party wipes due to mistakes by a healer that couldn't keep up and yet "we don't need healers anymore" and we had the god tier warrior tanking that supposedly can replace a healer
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  8. #78
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    Kamran Pridley
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    That's a whole lot of words to say "These people disagree with me and I don't like it."
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  9. #79
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    But it already managed to change the game.

    It got media attention, both from game journalist websites and content creators. It managed that in a week, where Years of more or less polite feedback since 2018 did not achieve Anything.
    To be fair, those things are outside of the game.
    "Game-changer" is probably meant in this case as actual changes in the game.
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  10. #80
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    Kailea Nagisa
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    I sit here watching this and for funsies queued dutyfinder with a smn since I was distracted by all these threads..... and in expert roulette had 3 party wipes due to mistakes by a healer that couldn't keep up and yet "we don't need healers anymore" and we had the god tier warrior tanking that supposedly can replace a healer
    Same argument I used when some healers started to complain about duties being completed without them

    Not everyone can play tank at the level it takes to do what Xeno and his friends did
    Healers are needed for the a standard situation. Healers could use at least a 3 hit combo spell. That is pretty much it.
    This 'strike" is really stupid, for the simple fact that the people joining it want some really stupid or crazy things done to "solve" the problem.
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