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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Elidibus (or really we should say Themis at this point) was chosen for the Convocation at an age where most are just barely starting adult life. The 5.3 speech, where he's recounting how things went so wrong - in my humble opinion - sounds a lot like he's admitting to an idealistic naivete.
    I love this response! Brings to me a new point of view of Themis that I hadn't even thought about, and I already love Elidibus/Themis as is, so this is super interesting!

    When it comes to Zenos, you guys have convinced me that he's just that strong, and/or that the WoL isn't as almighty as I pictured, which is a good way of seeing it, I think. I also liked your point of view of Minfilia, and her knowing full well what she was getting herself into but doing so willingly, this actually makes perfect sense to me, I honestly don't know why I didn't think of it. Overall, I think you really nailed all of my points!

    I suppose the only things that will remain on the back of my head are the (potentially) discarded plot line with Zenos' dreams (I still hope one day they explain it ) and also just the future sight stuff, which by the way I'm glad to see someone else shares in my discomfort of them never touching on it again! And yeah, you're totally right, it would be perfect to tie up some ends!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassar View Post
    I suppose the only things that will remain on the back of my head are the (potentially) discarded plot line with Zenos' dreams (I still hope one day they explain it ) and also just the future sight stuff, which by the way I'm glad to see someone else shares in my discomfort of them never touching on it again! And yeah, you're totally right, it would be perfect to tie up some ends!
    Like you said before, Oda, Ishikawa, and Kate said in a Q&A that Zenos' dreams are due to his being an Ascian's great-grandson and that it "skipped a generation". I don't think we'll get any more than that especially now with him likely (hopefully) dead forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Like you said before, Oda, Ishikawa, and Kate said in a Q&A that Zenos' dreams are due to his being an Ascian's great-grandson and that it "skipped a generation". I don't think we'll get any more than that especially now with him likely (hopefully) dead forever.
    Maybe it says something about me that when I hear this, I don't think the interesting story potential is in Zenos getting magic psychic dreams, it's in Varis NOT getting them. I'm a tiny bit more sympathetic towards him knowing that he's the one guy in his family that's left out of the mysterious big picture, and is clearly looked down on for it! And honestly, it makes a lot of the story around him make a lot more sense!

    Only a tiny bit more sympathetic, though. He's still an abject horrifying monster. But I think it puts him above the other Galvuses for me, I'm more interested in the inferiority complex that Varis clearly has than the superiority complex that his son and grandfather have.
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