What is the point of playing tank other than warrior?

[Supersnow845]

This is totally independent of my opinions over on healer strike and more to do with my enjoyment when I play tank

ALL THE TANKS NEED TO BE NERFED

Tanks are physically unable to die in casual content (DRK in mob packs is an exception). They take less damage than the party with 6 vuln stacks, you can survive busters with 8 vuln stacks unmitigated, anything below a normal raid hell you can actively chase vuln stacks and you won’t die

In most dungeons and trials at this point as a tank I just stand in one place and never move and collect whatever vuln stacks hit me in that one place and I just………don’t die (and the healer isn’t even power healing me, I’m just using my own healing)

What fun is there in being physically unable to die

Side note i do agree with the OP premise that within the tank role WAR is too strong but the entire role is too strong right now

[Rithy255]

This is totally independent of my opinions over on healer strike and more to do with my enjoyment when I play tank

ALL THE TANKS NEED TO BE NERFED

Tanks are physically unable to die in casual content (DRK in mob packs is an exception). They take less damage than the party with 6 vuln stacks, you can survive busters with 8 vuln stacks unmitigated, anything below a normal raid hell you can actively chase vuln stacks and you won’t die

In most dungeons and trials at this point as a tank I just stand in one place and never move and collect whatever vuln stacks hit me in that one place and I just………don’t die (and the healer isn’t even power healing me, I’m just using my own healing)

What fun is there in being physically unable to die

Side note i do agree with the OP premise that within the tank role WAR is too strong but the entire role is too strong right now

While I do agree that all tanks are in need of some sort of nerf, I don't wanna just outright remove/nerf strong cooldowns, I think one conversation we had was about sustain, where I think sustain is fine it just needs to be reduced and balanced out; I actually think baseline mitigation plays a massive role into why tanks feel very powerful defensively and why most don't need a healer.

Warrior is sort of a anomaly to this though, it's self healing is so absurdly strong even if its defensive value was reduced a lot I don't think it would be enough to make this tank feel "over powered" in wall to wall due to how blood whetting works and just the sheer volume of how much sustain tools warrior has added to every one of their defensive skills. Warrior is even a problem after ARR in this regards

I think a good and interesting way to do this is nerf down tanks base defensive value (aka removing/reducing the tank passive), so that cycling mitigations properly becomes more interesting on tank, I'd want tank gameplay to have more importance on using your defensives.

At the end of the day I'd personally like tank responsibility to be high with, raid wides and target mit's but I also think that current tanking somewhat fails with that... It should require decent team work for a tank/healer to wall to wall pull in a dungeon, instead of one job being able to fully carry the other through it with situations like warriors absurd per enemy hit heal.

[CaedemSanguis]

Week1 p8s disagree


Drk - gnb >>>>>>> other tanks