The changes to Astrologian are upsetting

[BlueMageQuina]

These work fantastically in the turn-based and Active Time Battle systems of past games, he remarks. “However, in an MMORPG, we are not able to stop time. And [if it could] it would kind of overpower the job. And what would be the point of a Time Mage that could not manipulate time?.

And furthermore, we have Stop... it's just called Stun in this game and WHM uses it instead. It's funny because I remember in HW reading how they were considering giving AST something to compete with Holy but settled on giving it an oGCD stun with a cooldown so it wouldn't piss off WHMs. It would, but I'd still change to put Stop [Stun] on Gravity, Blind on Holy, Heavy on Dyskrasia, Slow on Art of War; it all seems more in line with job identity to me.

[Silver-Strider]

And furthermore, we have Stop... it's just called Stun in this game and WHM uses it instead. It's funny because I remember in HW reading how they were considering giving AST something to compete with Holy but settled on giving it an oGCD stun with a cooldown so it wouldn't piss off WHMs. It would, but I'd still change to put Stop [Stun] on Gravity, Blind on Holy, Heavy on Dyskrasia, Slow on Art of War; it all seems more in line with job identity to me.

Wouldn't a Heavy on Gravity make more sense? Like, you are literally crushing them under the weight of gravity

[BlueMageQuina]

Wouldn't a Heavy on Gravity make more sense? Like, you are literally crushing them under the weight of gravity

I think that makes sense too for the spell itself because Gravity. For the job, I think the Stun makes sense as well because time.

[Tint]

And furthermore, we have Stop... it's just called Stun in this game and WHM uses it instead. It's funny because I remember in HW reading how they were considering giving AST something to compete with Holy but settled on giving it an oGCD stun with a cooldown so it wouldn't piss off WHMs. It would, but I'd still change to put Stop [Stun] on Gravity, Blind on Holy, Heavy on Dyskrasia, Slow on Art of War; it all seems more in line with job identity to me.

The stun on Holy is necessary because WHM does not have many off-GCD heals. While other healers can do AoE damage with GCDs and still heal the tank with off-GCDs WHM would be locked into spamming GCD heals and their damage would go downhill.

[BlueMageQuina]

The stun on Holy is necessary because WHM does not have many off-GCD heals. While other healers can do AoE damage with GCDs and still heal the tank with off-GCDs WHM would be locked into spamming GCD heals and their damage would go downhill.

Sorry, for misleading you with my rambling about lore as opposed to mechanics. My point was more that Stop already exists and we just call it Stun. That's all. I can understand the purpose of Stun on WHM's Holy and why other healers don't have it.