Dawntrail's mediatour dungeon was already cleared without healers.

[Supersnow845]

Like that actually matters with this games sync system.

Aren’t you the one arguing that the tank being able to do this is caused by ridiculous sync and not because tanks are overpowered

I’m telling that sync down bonus is not playing into this

[Flay_wind]

Yep, lvl 100's sync down to 92 in full AF trashing the first dungeon. And people having a melt down over it like they should be getting wrecked or something..

For the record, first dungeon of the expansion syncs lower, than the previous expansion cap. And it should drop ilvl 650 gear or some such.
So, it's literally irrelevant if they are using level 100 synced gear, since full (soon to be poetics) 660 gear already puts you way above the synced down level.
And both Hominster Switch and Tower of Zot are actually one of the hardest dungeons in their respective expansions

[KageTokage]

Who would have thought that encounter design would not have changed at all? So shocking, would have never expected this from the game notorious for having the same exact content repackaged every expansion with different cutscenes.

There was a vain hope after they claimed they wanted to make the gameplay more engaging at the PAX media tour.

Though they've also had a history of not living up their promises, so...

[Mortex]

And you're still here...5 YEARS later, but sure, blame the people "simping" for ff 14 and Yoshida.

Yes because healers were actually a fun role back in the day. Kinda ironic if you think what they are now. Imagine the most fun you had playing a role and they completely burn it to the ground. It’s kinda funny that wow respects healer main more since it’s inception until even today then FF 14 that dumbs down the role

And ofc I’m still here I don’t play healer as a main role anymore xD. Doesn’t mean I can’t see and play even myself how utterly brain rotting this role is.


Also your post screams “pls don’t bully the multi million dollar company anymore”. Yoshi p and his crew back then even said to never insult your player base and listen to feedback. Well we can see they don’t and double down on stupid ideas.

[Mortex]

...and it never was that bad. All the doomposting was overexaggerated and things were fine actually.

That’s a fukking lie and we both know it. Healer since shadowbringer are the most brain rotting role full stop. I was a week 1 healer player and I had to swap my keyboard 2 times because my 1 key was breaking after pressing that butting for more then 5000 times in a week. But yes pls tell the healer veterans how good the game was back in shadowbringer xD…….. any healer main that is decent and not completely brain rotten from playing this job will tell you it’s the most boring unrewarding role to get better. Any other role gets interesting rotations and other fun stuff while healers press 1 around 50 times more.

[Mortex]

Yep, lvl 100's sync down to 92 in full AF trashing the first dungeon. And people having a melt down over it like they should be getting wrecked or something..

You can’t be real or ? You effectively told a wrong fact when you could actually fact check this more then easy by simple queuing holminster or tower of zot and see how hard these dungeons hit people in big pulls. I can tell you that I actually use all ogcds as healer and still have to gcd heal in these dungeons in a decent number of instances. The first dungeon of a addon normally beats the living hell out of people because of scaling and again it doesn’t matter if you are 100 with gear you still get synced.

[Mortex]

Did I ever say Expert dungeons were hard? No. I did not. I said it would be 'harder' as in, more difficult then current content. That does not imply HARD. A marshmallow is harder then water, but it's still not hard. (Hint, the ninja did die a couple times, as did the dragoon, but they had a red mage.) The average player as a tank will not throw their heals on the other players, they half the time can't even read their tooltip to know they even CAN. Hell half of them don't even use it on THEMSELVES. I swear most of the playerbase in this game can't read.

This forum is total cancer. I seriously hope they do NOT ever look at this place. This is seriously one of the most toxic places I have ever had the misfortune of coming across.

Oh no some one used facts and evidence from the video and told me how bad healers current state is and was since 5 years so they are toxic and hurt my special snowflake attitude.

Yes a decent part of the player base can’t read and ? Why does everything has to be dumbed down and insult player intelligence. The fact that they made it through the 1 dungeons in an expansion with no healer while playing like monkeys should reality check you pretty badly. Imagine they had played decently then the rdm was even not needed in this situation rezzing them.

[NanaWiloh]

You can’t be real or ? You effectively told a wrong fact when you could actually fact check this more then easy by simple queuing holminster or tower of zot and see how hard these dungeons hit people in big pulls. I can tell you that I actually use all ogcds as healer and still have to gcd heal in these dungeons in a decent number of instances. The first dungeon of a addon normally beats the living hell out of people because of scaling and again it doesn’t matter if you are 100 with gear you still get synced.

Ran holminster for giggles ya, reminded me why I dont remember it. Same crap I have seen mutilple times. 1 or 2 hard hitting mobs pulled into a large pack smaller ones....gets old fast. Only one trash has ever impressed me enough to be remembered. Final pack in Hells lid before the last boss. Watched it quite few times one shot a tank and too this day nothing has matched it. Too me every trash pack since first dungeon or last dungeon is a watered down wannabe of that trash pack.

[Absurdity]

There was a vain hope after they claimed they wanted to make the gameplay more engaging at the PAX media tour.

Though they've also had a history of not living up their promises, so...

You mean like how they told us they're gonna be increasing incoming party damage, and healers are totally gonna have to heal more, for two expansions now?
Imagine my shock.

At this point I'm getting the feeling that when they say "We're increasing the damage enemies deal." they mean "Level 100 mobs are going to deal more damage than level 90 mobs."
Yeah, I could've figured that one out on my own.

Ran holminster for giggles ya, reminded me why I dont remember it. Same crap I have seen mutilple times. 1 or 2 hard hitting mobs pulled into a large pack smaller ones....gets old fast. Only one trash has ever impressed me enough to be remembered. Final pack in Hells lid before the last boss. Watched it quite few times one shot a tank and too this day nothing has matched it. Too me every trash pack since first dungeon or last dungeon is a watered down wannabe of that trash pack.

The serpents at the end of Hell's Lid have an untelegraphed cleave buster, it's the only "recent" dungeon I can remember that actually has the enemies do more than auto attack and occasionally do a laughable AoE spell with a 10 second cast time.

[Daralii]

The serpents at the end of Hell's Lid have an untelegraphed cleave buster, it's the only "recent" dungeon I can remember that actually has the enemies do more than auto attack and occasionally do a laughable AoE spell with a 10 second cast time.

Hell's Lid was also what, 2017? So one pack in one dungeon in the last half of the game's post-Tanaka lifespan.