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  1. #61
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Im gay and I dont give a single fuck about this. Can we not just play a fun game with a good story, without forcing some agenda here?
    I linked this to a few in my FC as well and they both had the same reaction as you. From what I gather, pretty much all LGBTQ+ people just want to play fantasy games and forget about the real world. People like OP like to stir the pot and start fights.
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  2. #62
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    People like OP like to stir the pot and start fights.


    something something
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  3. #63
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf View Post
    Please educate yourself...

    https://usustatesman.com/opinion-why...-is-important/

    When I was a kid, I was obsessed with the Disney Channel show “Phineas and Ferb” (2007-2012). I thought — and still think — the show was incredible and made a point to watch it every day. As a child captivated by romance, I lived for the love between two of the main characters, Phineas and Isabella.

    However, no one would assume that this romance was pushing a sexual orientation onto me.

    More people than ever feel comfortable identifying as part of the LGBTQ+ community and as society continues to progress, this number is likely to continue growing.

    With an increase in people speaking out about identifying as queer, the media has also seen an increase in queer representation. Notable movies such as 20th Century Studios’ “Love, Simon” (2018) and shows such as Netflix’s “Heartstopper” (2022-present) have showcased queer lead characters to help more of the population feel represented.

    This representation has spread to kids’ media as well, but this seems to be where the biggest controversy lies.

    Disney shows like “Gravity Falls” (2021-2016) and “Good Luck Charlie” (2010-2014) were criticized for including same-sex couples as background characters. When rumors surfaced about Elsa from Disney’s “Frozen” (2013) being queer, there was pushback.

    So, when Disney’s “The Owl House” (2020-2023) featured the first canonically bisexual lead in a cartoon, people were angry.

    A common argument against queer representation in kids’ media is that it’s enticing the kids watching to identify as queer as well.

    In reality, sexual orientation is determined by brain chemistry and non-social environmental factors. In other words, the media and other people are both factors that do not contribute to sexual orientation.

    Furthermore, the goal of queer representation in kids’ media is not to encourage kids to change their sexuality. Instead, the goal is to help more children feel seen and comfortable being themselves.

    It’s no news that representation matters. People feel more comfortable with themselves when they see others like them, especially on a large scale. When people have others that they can identify with, they feel less alone, lowering levels of depression and anxiety.

    Kids’ media is no different, and a variety of representations in such is perhaps even more important. With kids still learning how to feel about themselves, understanding that there are other people like them can help counter feelings of loneliness and isolation.
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  4. #64
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    BrokenFantasy's Avatar
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    Jona'tha Daavisi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf View Post
    Dexerto recently interviewed Final Fantasy 14 director Naoki Yoshida (via a translator) during a preview for the upcoming Dawntrail expansion. Yoshida was also the producer of Final Fantasy 16, so we asked whether Dawntrail would feature LGBTQ characters in the same vein as Dion.

    “So, if the question is whether there is a character that is clearly expressed in that way as Dion,” Yoshida said, “Then the answer is no.”

    “But this time around, the Warriors of Light will be meeting many different races, many different tribes, many different peoples. The theme of the expansion is “diversity”, so in that sense, you can expect many different encounters.”

    https://www.dexerto.com/final-fantas...cters-2759025/

    Diversity includes sexuality and gender diversity! This is such a big slap in the face to everyone in the LGBTQIA+ Community, especially after Dion was released in FF16... We all thought... This expansion Dawntrial, will be the first expansion to feature a major LGBT NPC story character in the MSQ. But it's not. Does Square Enix even care about their LGBT players anymore?
    Assuming you're not a troll, speak for yourself please. I'm a gay man and I don't feel "slapped in the face". Sure it's a little disappointing to hear that there won't be any LGBT+ people in Dawntrail, and a little odd. Maybe the writers don't feel comfortable writing them due to lack of experience, maybe they don't consider it important. Let's not advocate for ticking off checkboxes in terms of diversity/representation in FFXIV; bad enough that it's become the norm in other games and Hollywood.
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  5. #65
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    I linked this to a few in my FC as well and they both had the same reaction as you. From what I gather, pretty much all LGBTQ+ people just want to play fantasy games and forget about the real world. People like OP like to stir the pot and start fights.
    I've noticed that in literally all media genres and groups, shocking surprise LGBTQ people are just like everyone else and only mentally ill people spend all their time making their sexuality their entire personality(gay, straight or any combo you want). I'm a straight dude, one of my all time favourite books is called Corpies about a superhero, he's also gay, by the logic of some people I shouldn't be able to empathise or enjoy the story because I'm not even slightly represented in the book........... How about instead of SE adding LGBTQ characters, they just yeet some of these scions and add good characters regardless of their sexual orientation.

    I'd put this question to OP, would you rather have a great character well written story and interesting plots, or a bad story but it's ticked all you diversity boxes?
    Sea wolf keeps talking about no LGBTQ characters on the forum but other than Urianger, none of their sexualities are every discussed, they can be whatever your head cannon has them as. In fact I literally think the only character prominent character in the game that's had their sexuality discussed is Urianger.
    You could argue Thancred potentially, but other than that none of the scions have any romantic interests, likely intentionally so each player can decided how their version of the scions are.
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    Last edited by Malthir; 06-10-2024 at 11:00 PM.

  6. #66
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    Acelyn's Avatar
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    Acelyn Abattoir
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    Lamia
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    well, he doesn't have to....

    have you looked around at your fellow WoL's? they're already very lgbtq+, my server has more inclusive fc's than i can shake a stick at.
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  7. #67
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    MrJadeOfStars's Avatar
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    Heldricht Lesait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Stay the eff away from kids.
    Hol up before I report you, excuuuse me? What are you trying to imply here?
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  8. #68
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Who wasted his time with such a stupid question? I wish these could be vetted beforehand by someone with a brain. Imagine getting to talk to Yoship and this is what you waste time on? Lol

    Sadly he has to be nice about it but you know inside he is cringing and annoyed.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 06-11-2024 at 05:11 AM.

  9. #69
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
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  10. #70
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    My WoL already Gay-married Hien, much to the shock of Yuguri who lives with us, so I have no need for any additional LGBT characters.
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