They're thinking about job identities for 8.0

[SeverianLyonesse]

Wait, is there something wrong with the colors I haven't noticed?

The Edo-period concept of Setsugekka is not only a visual representation of the passing of the seasons (Moon = Autumn, Snow = Winter, Flower = Spring), but can also be viewed as a color motif showing how the seasons progress through different tints of white (Moon = yellow white, Snow = blue white, Flower = pink white).

The new Midare Setsugekka move we are getting in DT correctly reflects this in the sword colors. You could also see the proper colors reflected in the respective Gekko, Yukikaze, Kasha (and Mangetsu/Oka) skills and hotbar symbols for each.

But the actual Sen symbols and Meikyo Shisui have been wrong from the beginning. Moon should not be blue; snow should not be green.

It's honestly baffling to me why they designed the sen symbols the way they did. There are mods which deliberately change them to different colors because Snow and Moon can be easily confused. But also, like, why go 99% of the way there and then totally ignore the color motif in the gauge?

[Reimmi]

just quoting to check in 4 weeks

People liek this are very weird.
Touch some grass perhaps rather than stalk someones profile for a pointless reason lol

[Micaiah_Larin]

You sure they saw all of the feedback? How is the Japanese Forum doing? Are they also complaining? Casue if they ain't nothing will change.

[Kathryn]

You sure they saw all of the feedback? How is the Japanese Forum doing? Are they also complaining? Casue if they ain't nothing will change.

Nope, tbh most of the complaining seems to come from the EU/NA forums, these are the latest threads from JP General:

FF11コラボで実装してほしい装備 - Equipment I would like to see implemented in the FF11 collaboration - Last response 05-30-2024, 01:27 PM

『レッドオニオンヘルム』のロール制限撤廃もしくはおしゃれ装備版の実装をお願いします！！ - Please remove the role restrictions for "Red Onion Helm" or implement a stylish equipment version! ! - Last Response 05-29-2024, 09:37 AM

スペイン語版を出してくれるようにご協力お願いします！ - Please help us publish a Spanish version! - Last Response 05-29-2024, 09:32 AM

Sooo yeh, nothing on combat or gender locked clothes.

[GoatOfWar]

Surely, they won't say they'll fix job design in 9.0 once 8.0 is here.

[Moqi]

No, they'll say after much consideration they've decided to leave jobs as they are and keep adding finishers and buttons you can only press after your long cooldowns and call it a day like everything else they "consider" but never change.

[KisaiTenshi]

i thought people came to xiv instead of wow because that was wows things "play good or leave" its really weird to see people suggesting it here and then pretending like this is what xiv players are about.

Oh, you've never been on the early Novice Network, where people would come from WoW, ask something that required doing something that is banned here, and then go "oh, this game not for me"

Like the common refrain on MMORPG forums, including this one is "This is not WoW. Do not try to turn it into WoW. If you want WoW, WoW is over there."

Because of bad and toxic behavior that bleeds over between MMO games (not just RPG's) the general consensus is not to hop games. If you like the way a game works, STAY THERE. If you hate how the game works, you're welcome to explain why you think something is bad, but the second you compare it to another MMO as though "it's better", you've lost the argument. "WoW does this better" is not an answer, it's saying the poster came to the Sushi restaurant and tried to order a BigMac and is complaining that there's no BigMac's, rather than go to McDonalds.

That's the problem. People expect certain experiences from certain jobs in the game that they "expect" from another MMO and then demand it work like that other MMO rather than maybe accept the idea that this is a different game. Maybe people LIKE how this game works and don't want it becoming more toxic like the other game.

This game, heavily relies on choreography. Hence the jobs are going to be pretty samey, because you can't have a "Broken" job that is mandatory in all party configurations. The consequences to that is that we basically have 3 healers that are so samey that if you map the same-ish skill on WHM, AST and SCH's hotbars, you can play every fight exactly the same. White Mage may have it's heal bombs, but the fact is, you can literately sit there and do most MSQ content with just Cure 2/Benefic 2, (go ahead, try it with the NPC parties) and ignore the entire rest of the kit. That tells you what's wrong with how healing is designed in this game.

Content isn't designed to require a healer, it's designed for a fixed amount of DPS per phase and then some kind of enrage-like mechanic should wipe the fight. Gear creep prevents this from happening. I would love to see fights where a DPS healing or a tank healing triggers adds or some kind of counter-heal attack to defeat the oCD of the heal.

[TBerry]

Nope, tbh most of the complaining seems to come from the EU/NA forums

Mostly NA because ego and someone else having a slightly higher number.

Anyway, most complaining seems to be in the English forums. Here are some of the newest German threads:

Shadow is coming! Neues europäisches Datenzentrum

"Shadow is coming! New European Datacenter"

Keine deutschsprachigen Youtuber?

"No German-speaking Youtubers?"

2tes Tauchboot oder Luftschiff freischalten.

Unlocking a second submergible or airship."

Fan Gathering in Potsdam 2024

Self-Explanatory

Mostly game-related.

[Musashidon]

Surely, they won't say they'll fix job design in 9.0 once 8.0 is here.

well they never said they were going to fix job design in 8.0 either so to be fair why would they?

[Absurdity]

Mostly NA because ego and someone else having a slightly higher number.

Anyway, most complaining seems to be in the English forums. Here are some of the newest German threads:


"Shadow is coming! New European Datacenter"


"No German-speaking Youtubers?"


Unlocking a second submergible or airship."


Self-Explanatory

Mostly game-related.

Not exactly a surprise, everyone but JP just uses the english subforum here, so all the other subforums are wastelands.