Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[HikariKurosawa]

I dont get it. Wasn't this thread "basically just I know the content for me exists, but I am too anxious to engage with it and I keep defaulting to content that isn't designed for me?" Then why there are people in this thread who have done it and still complain?

Also if "The healing demands in UWU even are huge. If you want to heal hard, do hard content." then why there are solo heals for years? Why there are 0 healer clears for TOP and UCOB which are known to be harder? Why TEA has a 1 healer clear and DSR had one on patch too? For content with "huge" healing demands sure its weird that those demands can be covered with a competent party and just 1 healer.

I mean if you don't enjoy being on top of the game then maybe it's not for you. Your opinion is an outlier opinion in this thread. It's not hard for me to understand why you're upset. I just don't think you have a valid position.

[WaxSw]

I mean if you don't enjoy being on top of the game then maybe it's not for you. Your opinion is an outlier opinion in this thread. It's not hard for me to understand why you're upset. I just don't think you have a valid position.

So people who try and do the content dont have a valid position, but people who don't also dont have it? It's a weird way to say you're alone in your praise

Also please tell how is my "opinion" when the proof of it being mathematically possible is there? You can click the first messages and see how you don't need 2 healers, sometimes not even 1 to clear. Weird for such an "engaging" content with "huge" healing demands

[HikariKurosawa]

So people who try and do the content dont have a valid position, but people who don't also dont have it? It's a weird way to say you're alone in your praise

The people who I have met progging uwu in pf definitely don't share the perspectives I'm reading in this thread.

What I am saying is, if you don't enjoy the ease of experience that comes with mastery and the feeling of being on top of the entire game, maybe you should move on to something else since clearly what you like is the struggle of getting good at something. You've become good at this game at the highest level, there's nothing left for you in the means of struggling to get good. Move on, or learn to enjoy being a master.

If you're even playing at the level you suggest that is. You linked someone else's accomplishment in a youtube video, I don't know what you are capable of personally. Maybe you're just looking at what someone else can do and acting like it is inevitable you can do that since it is possible. Talk to me when it is actually you who is doing that, but even then I'd just say the same thing. Move on if you're done with it.

[Rehayem]

I mean if you don't enjoy being on top of the game then maybe it's not for you. Your opinion is an outlier opinion in this thread. It's not hard for me to understand why you're upset. I just don't think you have a valid position.

What is this, some kind of competition? You have to be on top because...? I'm aware the thread is 400+ pages long, but a thread this huge should have caught SE's attention long ago with the issues at hand. This is the same company that tells you to go play other games, and people believe they "care". They don't, they want your money but are perfectly aware their content is very hollow so they don't want you to burn out too quickly. A company that believes in holy trinity with tank + healer + dps shouldn't tell healers to go play the hardest content in the game just because you wanna "feel" something. It's been shown and proven healers aren't needed in the hardest content either. Yes, it takes a lot of planning and progging, but it's the possibility that's awful -- and SE doesn't give a damn.

The problem is that there's no proper competition against FFXIV except maybe WoW, so SE got lazy with their designs and calls it innovation.

[OliviaLugria]

I feel like there's a difference between "easy" and "I can afk."

[WaxSw]

The people who I have met progging uwu in pf definitely don't share the perspectives I'm reading in this thread.

What I am saying is, if you don't enjoy the ease of experience that comes with mastery and the feeling of being on top of the entire game, maybe you should move on to something else since clearly what you like is the struggle of getting good at something. You've become good at this game at the highest level, there's nothing left for you in the means of struggling to get good. Move on, or learn to enjoy being a master.

If you're even playing at the level you suggest that is. You linked someone else's accomplishment in a youtube video, I don't know what you are capable of personally. Maybe you're just looking at what someone else can do and acting like it is inevitable you can do that since it is possible. Talk to me when it is actually you who is doing that, but even then I'd just say the same thing. Move on if you're done with it.

The people who I met progging 5 ultimates do. So do the 400 pages of nonstop complaints.

You haven't answered my questions so I'll repeat them:

If "The healing demands in UWU even are huge. If you want to heal hard, do hard content." then why there are solo heals for years? Why there are 0 healer clears for TOP and UCOB which are known to be harder? Why TEA has a 1 healer clear and DSR had one on patch too? For content with "huge" healing demands sure its weird that those demands can be covered with a competent party and just 1 healer.

My accomplishment or not, it doesn't matter. The fact that is possible is proof enough of the design issues of this game.

If you truly are curious about my performance, you know the forbidden web where to check it but you may need to change the tab to Shb to see the TEA, UCOB and UWU ones

[vetch]

Every day, new people are tricked into responding to Hikari.

[Sani2341]

Easy content is always going to be easy. Yoshi-p is completely right with what he is saying. The healing demands in UWU even are huge. If you want to heal hard, do hard content. Even savage raiding is pointless to me now that I've started engaging with ultimates. It's a lot of effort for something that will never be close to as satisfying. If I have to grind savages I will, but I'd rather just solely do ultimates now that I know what it is like.

I still do most content levels in this game for leveling or tomestone grinding or whatever, but ultimates are the only part of the game I am really finding to be an enjoyable level of challenge that is worth the effort. Savages and extremes are challenging enough to be high effort content sure, but it's not the same. I'm only up to having killed titan in UWU too but wow it is just 100000% more engaging to me.

This whole thread kinda shouldn't exist because it is basically just "I know the content for me exists, but I am too anxious to engage with it and I keep defaulting to content that isn't designed for me". Self growth is more important than expecting the game to change to cater to people's performance anxieties lol

Good thing I didn't ask for hard, but for interesting gameplay.
And yes that can be a thing even in simple content.
Back in SB I had DoTs on sch to juggle even when doing "easy" content, it gave you Something to do.

[WaxSw]

Every day, new people are tricked into responding to Hikari.

Guilty as charged, lesson learned tho

[Pip_Chick]

Good thing I didn't ask for hard, but for interesting gameplay.
And yes that can be a thing even in simple content.
Back in SB I had DoTs on sch to juggle even when doing "easy" content, it gave you Something to do.

I want that back. Please!