Dawntrail's mediatour dungeon was already cleared without healers.

[ty_taurus]

So apparently, according to one of Yoshi P’s interviews regarding Samurai and Kaiten, he sort of implied that combat encounter changes aren’t really going into effect till 7.2? I’m not sure if I’m understanding his wording correctly…

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience," Yoshi-P says. "But to start that off, we will be focusing on Battle content. So, once players get used to the changes in those battles, then we will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs.“

Here is the article

[MagiusNecros]

So apparently, according to one of Yoshi P’s interviews regarding Samurai and Kaiten, he sort of implied that combat encounter changes aren’t really going into effect till 7.2? I’m not sure if I’m understanding his wording correctly…

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience," Yoshi-P says. "But to start that off, we will be focusing on Battle content. So, once players get used to the changes in those battles, then we will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs.“

Here is the article

Define "fulfilling". Sounds like nothing salad he is spewing.

[Niroken]

So apparently, according to one of Yoshi P’s interviews regarding Samurai and Kaiten, he sort of implied that combat encounter changes aren’t really going into effect till 7.2? I’m not sure if I’m understanding his wording correctly…

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience," Yoshi-P says. "But to start that off, we will be focusing on Battle content. So, once players get used to the changes in those battles, then we will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs.“

Here is the article

Wonderful. They can get my money when it actually happens though.

[Loggos]

So apparently, according to one of Yoshi P’s interviews regarding Samurai and Kaiten, he sort of implied that combat encounter changes aren’t really going into effect till 7.2? I’m not sure if I’m understanding his wording correctly…

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience," Yoshi-P says. "But to start that off, we will be focusing on Battle content. So, once players get used to the changes in those battles, then we will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs.“

Here is the article

Questions regarding the translation aside, I don't understand his reasoning that we would need two patches to get used to the new encounter design? They could easily use the MSQ as a fluent transition from EW design to DT design. Starting out easy in the first dungeon and trial nr. 1 and then slowly increasing the pace/pattern/whatever they have changed with every new dungeon/trial nr. 2, culminating in their DT fight design vision in its fullest form in the final MSQ dungeon and fight.

We are all level 90 at this point and it's safe to assume that the majority of people know how to play the basic game. The vast majority of players have obviously not bought a lvl skip to 90 without ever touching the game before and being completely new to the FF14 experience.

To assume that the majority of (by then) level 100 players wouldn't be able to get accustomed to their new fights doesn't sound like they have much faith in their playerbase, which is rather sad.

And as for raiders having to adjust to the new mechanics, since raiding is all about challenge I'm sure they'd welcome having to figure out these new challenges? I can imagine that this would precisely be part of the fun, esp. since many raiders already have years worth of experience and by now know how to adapt to design novelties and unique encounters.
And for new players wanting to get into raiding you could still have a mini transition of difficulty, with the first ex trial being beginner friendly, the second one being more challenging and the last one being the most challenging one.
I think those who really want to get into raiding for the first time would not necessarily be deterred by job changes and design changes happening at the same time. They do not know the old ex/savage design philosophy anyway, so they start off with a clean slate and don't have to unlearn old raiding habits.

[Sunhwapark]

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience,"

Not gonna lie but it sounds like they just wanna secure the money deposit on those 2 other upcoming games.

[Oizen]

So apparently, according to one of Yoshi P’s interviews regarding Samurai and Kaiten, he sort of implied that combat encounter changes aren’t really going into effect till 7.2? I’m not sure if I’m understanding his wording correctly…

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience," Yoshi-P says. "But to start that off, we will be focusing on Battle content. So, once players get used to the changes in those battles, then we will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs.“

Here is the article

[WaxSw]

So apparently, according to one of Yoshi P’s interviews regarding Samurai and Kaiten, he sort of implied that combat encounter changes aren’t really going into effect till 7.2? I’m not sure if I’m understanding his wording correctly…

"From 7.2, we will be working towards a more fulfilling playing experience," Yoshi-P says. "But to start that off, we will be focusing on Battle content. So, once players get used to the changes in those battles, then we will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs.“

Here is the article

wait wait wait, ok so let me get this right.

They did a graphical update, but not to all the zones of game, that complete graphical update will come in the future. They barely changed the job design despite criticism and a lot of the few changes were for the worst, the real job changes will come in the future (8.0). They promised a better combat design but that will also come in the future (7.2).

What the fuck are they doing for DT release, just adding the msq and calling it a day?

[ASkellington]

wait wait wait, ok so let me get this right.

They did a graphical update, but not to all the zones of game, that complete graphical update will come in the future. They barely changed the job design despite criticism and the few changes were for the worst, the real job changes will come in the future (8.0). They promised a better combat design but that will also come in the future (7.2).

What the fuck are they doing for DT release, just adding the msq and calling it a day?

Yeah, that sounds about right. Cause if I recall EW correctly, we didn't get EXs until a post-patch, didn't get relic until one, didn't get IS, Variant/Criterion, or Deep Dungeon either. It was mostly MSQ and... 2 capstone dungeons right?

I don't even think we got tribal quests.

[TheDruidOcelot]

and we haven't gotten dungeon hard modes since stormblood. they've cut down the amount of content in each expansion to less than half. less than half the capstone dungeons, no hard modes dungeons... etc.

and then they took away MOST of the healer job identity when shb released "to prepare for a new healing class"

sage released, they stripped more healer job identity, and nerfed combat design to make healers less needed.

and now they're repeating it ad nauseum, because they think the healer shortage is because healing is "too hard" and not because its boring.

i don't think the devs actually read the EN forums, but uh. people don't enjoy playing healer classes because they're BORING.

there's nothing to do. stripping all complexity makes them more boring. making everyone not need a healer makes playing a healer boring.

they need to incentivize healers. by 1) making healing actually engaging, and 2) actually making rewards for healing be at par with what tanks currently have (the mounts and titles for completing a specific number of high end duties as tank should have healer equivalents tbh)

[Pandurah]

just adding the msq and calling it a day?

Yep.

Well, it feels like it, tbh. I was under the impression the better combat would come with DT's release. Feels like they under tuned damage again, saw the no-healer dungeon fallout, then suddenly "it's coming in 7.2!"
I'm somewhat confused!