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  1. #31
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    Kisshu's Avatar
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    So what's the consensus (from a non-biased standpoint)? Is it essentially EW 2.0 or have jobs been changed for the better in any form?
    The jobs I've been looking at mostly (NIN/WAR/RDM/SMN), it's mostly 1-2 ogcds or gcds in the 1 or 2 min bursts. And some of the abilities are flashier with new animations.
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  2. #32
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    So what's the consensus (from a non-biased standpoint)? Is it essentially EW 2.0 or have jobs been changed for the better in any form?
    Endwalker 2.0

    If you seek fun play Viper or Pictomancer. Casters got crapped on. Melee seems like it's more of the same mostly. But thus far it does seem like Meleewalker 2.0.
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  3. #33
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    This basically confirmed my fears that most of the jobs weren't getting any particularly significant additions to their kits and it's almost strictly follow-ups to existing cooldowns.

    SGE is one of the odd exceptions for having a new nuke button and a second DoT that's actually a very slight DPS gain.
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  4. #34
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Endwalker 2.0

    If you seek fun play Viper or Pictomancer. Casters got crapped on. Melee seems like it's more of the same mostly. But thus far it does seem like Meleewalker 2.0.
    Did phys ranged get anything funky or are they in the gutted boat as well?
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  5. #35
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Wouldn't be surprised if Yoshi-P knew this expansion was going to flop which is why he "teased" about doing "job reworks" in 8.0. Asking players to continue playing the same thing they've been playing for for the last 4-5 years for an additional 2.5-3 years isn't going to cut it, especially since there is no longer a 10 year long story wrapping up to hold people's attention. I also expect them to be unable to deliver interesting fights throughout the expansion (like barbariccia) and get many stinkers like all of Myths of the Realm which will further bore many players causing them to leave.
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  6. #36
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    Purrsephone Nyx
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    Twintania
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Anyone has the link from where you guys are reading this? im confused.
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  7. #37
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Did phys ranged get anything funky or are they in the gutted boat as well?
    I feel like they stayed the same based on what I saw but I did not read up on Phys Ranged. I just know MCH pretty much plays the same and Flamethrower is still garbage. They just have extra cool stuff to throw out once in a while.

    Most of the classes really suffer from the "another finisher" effect.
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  8. #38
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I never would have guessed they were all high potency 2m buttons with aoe falloff, very original se good job
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  9. #39
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rikizza View Post
    Anyone has the link from where you guys are reading this? im confused.
    Youtube. Search "Job name" Dawntrail.
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  10. #40
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I feel like they stayed the same based on what I saw but I did not read up on Phys Ranged. I just know MCH pretty much plays the same and Flamethrower is still garbage. They just have extra cool stuff to throw out once in a while.

    Most of the classes really suffer from the "another finisher" effect.
    Sadge. Guess ESO is getting my expansion money after all. I'll buy DT down the line if it turns out to be different than current expectations.
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