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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    SE should change the rules before they start selling. But maybe they are trying to get all the money they can right now lol from all those 8 accounts per player haha
    its a rule most games abide by, its called not banning without reason

    suspicion is unfortunately never enough reason, you actualy gotta wait for a rule to be violated

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    They are most likely building up there gil supplies and maxing chars ready to sell in 2.0, but for now there is no rule being broken.

    I bet in 2.0 SE will have a very tight watch on these guys
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    yeah also on Sargatanas we have this issue. I am trying to do leves at cedarwood and it gets crazy laggy. It is so bad that I don't even see my pg do actions and I only play looking at HP, MP and TP bars ahahahah.

    This is ridiculous...
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    Random Names does not equal RMT or bots!!!! For f**ks sake just cuz you can't recognize a name DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A BOT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guevara View Post
    yeah also on Sargatanas we have this issue. I am trying to do leves at cedarwood and it gets crazy laggy. It is so bad that I don't even see my pg do actions and I only play looking at HP, MP and TP bars ahahahah.

    This is ridiculous...
    >Blaming RMT for game being laggy
    >Not blaming DEVs

    Hey if this was a normal MMO, you would play with people around you so the fact that they are RMT isn't relevant to your complaint... As of today it's not like they are violating any rule, neither have an impact on the game (poor) economy anyway. I just hope that something will be done with 2.0 if they start selling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    >Blaming RMT for game being laggy
    >Not blaming DEVs

    Hey if this was a normal MMO, you would play with people around you so the fact that they are RMT isn't relevant to your complaint... As of today it's not like they are violating any rule, neither have an impact on the game (poor) economy anyway. I just hope that something will be done with 2.0 if they start selling.
    You are right, but still it is annoying.

    In ffxi, it was annoying to die right at the entrance of Selbina due to gob-trains. It was not against any rule to train mobs at the town entrance, but it was still annoying to die for it.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guevara View Post
    You are right, but still it is annoying.

    In ffxi, it was annoying to die right at the entrance of Selbina due to gob-trains. It was not against any rule to train mobs at the town entrance, but it was still annoying to die for it.
    thanks for reminding me
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    yeah you basicaly get +7k gil per leve when you do it the way they are doing it, it does add up over time

    but unfortunately, what they are doing isnt illegal unless they run an automated program and get caught, or until they actualy try to sell the gil
    Exactly, you can't tell the SE team OMG RMTs unless you actually see them advertise or sell. I got a bunch of Fabul lalabots banned by reporting them for using an "auto-target" third party program. For a long tme, people reported them as RMT and complained that nothing ever happened.

    TL DR; you can only report what you see. Not what you suspect.
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 04-17-2012 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    Random Names does not equal RMT or bots!!!! For f**ks sake just cuz you can't recognize a name DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A BOT!
    Are you trying to be sarcastic?
    We're not talking JUST about random names...
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    Yeh i've seen Auto Target "Bots" be banned, such as those who used to hangout in caves fighting wasps back when Shards were 250 a pop.

    But then it all became pointless when crafting was better so now they bot that and nothing happens or they farm leves. When you have a 99k stock, say you get 10k/leve, thats 80k per per 1 run, 80kx99 = almost 8mil for all leves, XD for an RMT that tedious work is nothing. And the EXP likely goes higher when they "Trade in" and exchange and they getting 20-30k/leve (16-24m/run).

    It is likely 8 accounts with 8 chars on each, so when 1x99 runs out, they move onto next char, a full account with 99x8 = 729, 8 chars = 6336 leves (at 5mins/leve would take 22 days playtime to do! Add on downtime of waiting for leves and such, about 2 months max.) completion, 6336x10kgil/level = 63mil XD (And if its 20-30k thats 120-180m a run), wouldnt surprise me if they have characters capped out of gil at 999m.
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