Thank you for the Astro changes coming in dawntrail!

[Olivia_G]

As I stated in my first post responding to you, I'm not passing judgement or forming opinions until I see the full kit. I think that should have been enough of a cue for you to pick up that I'm not interested in debating the quality of DT AST as we know of it now. I think it's pointless wheel spinning atm. If the kit is subpar, which would not surprise me, I will make my opinion known at that point.

What I take issue with is your conduct throughout the thread. You've done nothing but insult, berate, and talk down to those who don't mimic your stance. Forgive me for wanting to have a bit of fun taking some jabs at someone such as yourself.

You can surely form your opinions after you see the full kit, but here comes my concern: why can’t we get the details way after the Live Letter? What’s the meaning of these 2 weeks waiting for the details from the media tour? AST has been totally changed and we can’t even get the job details immediately.

If players could only leave their feedback after the implementation of Dawntrail update, we might have to wait for at least 4 months till the next patch update, and then, learn how to play this lucky job one more time.

Just a quick brainstorm if possible. Next time, if there will be a rework for any jobs, it might be better to release ALL details ASAP after the Live Letter for job changes.

Afterall, my real concern now is not “how a job will be adjusted (or “destroyed”, again)” anymore, but “what is the team’s vision regarding the job”. We are players but not testers for a released patch. Tho I truly appreciate their respect towards players’ feedback, I feel weird if a job’s construction would be largely affected by these.

At last, one more declaration. I’ll be very happy if there’s any trial for job adjustment before the Patch is released, maybe a beta test program like practicing in the Stone, Sky, Sea instant would be a good attempt?

[LynxDubh]

You can surely form your opinions after you see the full kit, but here comes my concern: why can’t we get the details way after the Live Letter? What’s the meaning of these 2 weeks waiting for the details from the media tour? AST has been totally changed and we can’t even get the job details immediately.

If players could only leave their feedback after the implementation of Dawntrail update, we might have to wait for at least 4 months till the next patch update, and then, learn how to play this lucky job one more time.

Just a quick brainstorm if possible. Next time, if there will be a rework for any jobs, it might be better to release ALL details ASAP after the Live Letter for job changes.

Afterall, my real concern now is not “how a job will be adjusted (or “destroyed”, again)” anymore, but “what is the team’s vision regarding the job”. We are players but not testers for a released patch. Tho I truly appreciate their respect towards players’ feedback, I feel weird if a job’s construction would be largely affected by these.

At last, one more declaration. I’ll be very happy if there’s any trial for job adjustment before the Patch is released, maybe a beta test program like practicing in the Stone, Sky, Sea instant would be a good attempt?

I would very much love if we got the preliminary details right after the live letter. Maybe a public test would work well. Maybe something akin to the Proto Ultima Weapon fight as a public released test with the new class changes to gain early feedback.

I breathed a sigh of relief when DNC did not get any major changes in the live letter for now. Which is not a good sign of the expectations of an expansion launch.

But, I fully expect for AST to be butchered like every expansion past SB has done. I'm giving the media tour the chance to prove me wrong. At least SGE got the stuff I wanted for it to a degree.

[Rozeee]

Afterall, my real concern now is not “how a job will be adjusted (or “destroyed”, again)” anymore, but “what is the team’s vision regarding the job”. We are players but not testers for a released patch. Tho I truly appreciate their respect towards players’ feedback, I feel weird if a job’s construction would be largely affected by these.

This is one of my main point of criticism not with just AST but healer role in this game. What is the devs actually trying to do? We got promised "more healing" with the ShB rework but that obviously didn't come to fruition, with them adding ridiculous things like Bloodhwetting or Shake it Off (Over time). Healerless clears is becoming more common. Damage options is obviously not a focus when SGE gets touted as "DPS Healer" and it only has one more DPS button compared to others. So what are they trying to do exactly?

Sure, some players are overly agitated when discussing job changes, but I see where they're coming from. It has become increasingly difficult to argue in good faith when you see healer changes over the years (SB lilies, ShB glare spam, pure and barrier split, other jobs' self sustain, SGE being a SCH copy). It feels amazingly insulting to hear "We've made the changes based on player feedback, so please try it out and provide more feedback". This forum and many other social media has already provided 2 expansions worth of feedback regarding healers. This is not working, go back to Stormblood. And no, it is not JP players that wanted this, they want SB AST/SCH back just as much as we do.

It is not illogical to make the conclusion of:
"The devs reads the feedback, but have their own vision and does that anyway"
"The devs reads the feedback, but these changes are made incompetently"
"The devs don't read the feedback"

I made a thread discussing how the devs should communicate job design changes. I firmly believe that this is an issue of communication/philosophy rather than the devs being uninspired.