Housing Mirage Wish List

[Khryseis_Astra]

I'm just not a fan of stripping away a unique system. And FF14 has been on a trend of that trading unique for accessibility.

"Not everyone has a house!"

And that's ok..

It doesn’t have to strip anything away though… it can be both/and, not just either/or. Wards can stay as they are, and even if they do add instanced, I don’t think they’d ever get rid of the wards, nor would I want them to.

Hard disagree on the “it’s ok everyone doesn’t have a house” though. We’re all paying a sub, we all deserve to have the same housing options available, independent of RNG. Aka: 1 house, 1 apartment, 1 FC room and 1 island. Adding an instanced system is the only way to do that, due to the scarcity of housing per number of players.

And honestly, with instanced, there’s no reason why everyone couldn’t have multiples of those, with a lot more variety and creativity than what we have now.

Personally I already have a ward house I enjoy, plus an FC room, an apartment and my island, all of which are well-loved and frequently decorated and redecorated. But I want more options, and I really want to see more innovation. I want to be able to have a plot in places that currently don’t have housing districts. Maybe they’ll give me my dream spot in Old Sharlayan someday, maybe not. But there’s lots of other places, and styles, of housing that we don’t have, that are totally possible, if only they’d run with some of the suggestions the player base has been making over the years. They don’t have to get rid of their unique ward housing to add other forms of housing to the game.

[Toutatis]

Just removing windows and pillars would go a long way as well as applying wallpaper to all types of partitions and selecting the basic interior style regardless of location. As for an attic, it would be nice but I would put the stairs all on the same side instead of as shown in the first post to avoid losing precious space. Same thing for medium: it would have been so much better to have all the stairs in the same corner.

[Solowing]

You're asking for a instance house with all the amenities of a ward plot be without the demolition timer. Also in suggestion you wanted to be upgradable.

Why would I want a ward house If it can't be upgraded and also has a demolition timer?

Again.I'm all for an instant's house but But its implementations should be similar to housing sanctuary.

You can have all these layouts in different kinds of areas. But it's friends list limited.

It'll be that upgradable house that you want with all the amenities that you want.But it simply isn't available to be seen unless they're on your friends list. That way, everybody gets a plot. Everybody gets housing.. And the neighborhood system is left intact.

Players will have the plot that they want and the neighborhood system is still left intact. Rather than creating one system to undermine the other.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Oh I don’t have a problem with them being limited. Island Sanctuary lets you set toggles for friends list, FC members and party members, and that’s just fine by me. (And even with the new blacklist updates coming, probably preferable for those who like their privacy! lol) The wards can be for those who either just like them better, or want a venue that can accommodate lots of players.

[Jojoya]

To me I think it is a unique housing system. Having a housing system that I share with other players in a dynamic neighborhood that changes over time inside and out according to the players. To strip that away to just an isolated instance that the entrance is going to be similar to the apartment system. (Likely to limit to friends list to avoid caps)

Is having a less dynamic, isolated and less unique system worth it just to give everybody a small instanced house breft of the unique interconnectivity feel on ward housing? No, IMO

I also think players come to appreciate the plots a lot more because it is a limited resource and you can lose it.

I'd rather not have another system stripped of what makes it unique. Sure not everyone gets a house. But you have access to housing even still.

I'm just not a fan of stripping away a unique system. And FF14 has been on a trend of that trading unique for accessibility.

"Not everyone has a house!"

And that's ok..

It's not a unique system. LotRO was already using the ward style system while FFXIV was still in 1.x. I will say the decorating system in LotRO sucks (hook based) but with respect to the implementation of the Neighborhoods themselves, they do it better than SE. They've made certain that every player that wants a house can get one by adding new Neighborhoods when the current Neighborhoods on a server reach a certain occupancy percentage or a certain house type sells out.

Just because something is unique doesn't make it worth keeping. Or should SE bring Diadem 1.0 back? Should they bring the dozens of different types of glamour prisms back? Those were unique as well.

Either way, there are few players that are asking for the ward system to be removed and I don't understand why that keeps getting brought back up. What most are asking for is an improved form of instanced housing to be added, not to be used as a replacement.

It's okay when not everyone has a house because not everyone wants a house.

It's not okay when everyone that wants a house can't get one.

[Toutatis]

Oh I don’t have a problem with them being limited. Island Sanctuary lets you set toggles for friends list, FC members and party members, and that’s just fine by me. (And even with the new blacklist updates coming, probably preferable for those who like their privacy! lol) The wards can be for those who either just like them better, or want a venue that can accommodate lots of players.

To help understand, by some twisted way that person thinks that instanced housing devalues their multiple ward houses because of the demolition timer...it makes no sense but there it is. Besides, instanced housing may bring an end to demolition (though a ward with housing owned by people that haven't shown up in years is pointless...demo should just be be longer if that's the case).

[Jojoya]

To help understand, by some twisted way that person thinks that instanced housing devalues their multiple ward houses because of the demolition timer...it makes no sense but there it is. Besides, instanced housing may bring an end to demolition (though a ward with housing owned by people that haven't shown up in years is pointless...demo should just be be longer if that's the case).

I don't see demolition ever being ended in the wards. Those who prefer to use ward housing would still be demanding better access to the more desirable plots and would continue to complain about the ones that are sitting unused. Active players would never get a chance at the ward mediums and larges if demolition were completely removed.

Increasing the window before demolition occurs would be more likely as there would be less stress on the ward system as many players move to instance. They could adjust the period as needed so the amount of turnover meets the unmet demand.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Oh I don’t have a problem with them being limited. Island Sanctuary lets you set toggles for friends list, FC members and party members, and that’s just fine by me. (And even with the new blacklist updates coming, probably preferable for those who like their privacy! lol) The wards can be for those who either just like them better, or want a venue that can accommodate lots of players.

And if Mirage was implemented, there's more opportunities for players to enjoy the larger sizes!