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    Scrap the 2-minute meta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Scrap the 2-minute meta.
    I wish. I actually love Speed stats, because it's the only stat that actually visibly changes your gameplay. I feel that if they weren't so obssessed with this 2min meta, the jobs in general could have more interesting designs because ultimately everything is just <insert obligatory job gimmick> + resource hoarding for the meta + actions with recast times that need to be aligned to the meta.

    But so far (even from reddit vague datamined information from the Benchmark) everything indicates they'll just double down on the 2min burst windows with Dawntrail, so I'm not really hopeful it's going to be scrapped or even changed. I'm more optimistic if they manage to make the 'not 2 min burst windows' more engaging.
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I wish. I actually love Speed stats, because it's the only stat that actually visibly changes your gameplay. I feel that if they weren't so obssessed with this 2min meta, the jobs in general could have more interesting designs because ultimately everything is just <insert obligatory job gimmick> + resource hoarding for the meta + actions with recast times that need to be aligned to the meta.

    But so far (even from reddit vague datamined information from the Benchmark) everything indicates they'll just double down on the 2min burst windows with Dawntrail, so I'm not really hopeful it's going to be scrapped or even changed. I'm more optimistic if they manage to make the 'not 2 min burst windows' more engaging.
    This dev team is known for doubling down on things that they maybe shouldn't.

    There was backlash when the AST card system was reduced to only damage buffs in ShB, they doubled down in EW.
    There was heavy backlash when they gutted all the healer damage kits in ShB, they doubled down in EW.

    They'll definitely double or triple down on the 2 minute buff meta, only when people still hate it in 8.0 will they finally change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post

    They'll definitely double or triple down on the 2 minute buff meta, only when people still hate it in 8.0 will they finally change it.
    I can even see that the argument is going to be "The 2min meta is restricting future job growth so we decided to unmake it" instead of just acknowledging it as an unpopular design premise.

    At least in my online bubble I know plenty of people who are neutral on it (most don't play high end tho), and many who hate it, but I don't know a single soul that genuinely praises the 2 minute meta.
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