Crystal Tower raids should moved to Main Scenario Roulette

[SigmarrIrenesch]

Hot (and not at all new) take, perhaps, but even with the ilvl fix from way back when the Alliance Raids roulette has been dominantly CT. You have to unlock and do CT for Main Scenario, never have to touch any of the other raids and you still have access to the roulette which sucks. Why is this a thing? Why not just move it to Main Scenario and have Alliance be lv60 and up like Normal?

I wouldn't mind helping new players with the raids, but more often than not there are no first timers. We have 12 other fun raids with more on the way, please let me play them too. >:[

EDIT: where's the "be" in my title :'(

[Toutatis]

Hot (and not at all new) take, perhaps, but even with the ilvl fix from way back when the Alliance Raids roulette has been dominantly CT. You have to unlock and do CT for Main Scenario, never have to touch any of the other raids and you still have access to the roulette which sucks. Why is this a thing? Why not just move it to Main Scenario and have Alliance be lv60 and up like Normal?

I wouldn't mind helping new players with the raids, but more often than not there are no first timers. We have 12 other fun raids with more on the way, please let me play them too. >:[

They would be very hard to fill in MSQ roulette given that they require 24 ppl.
Also why remove a roulette from lvl 50-60 players and players that have not gotten to the point where they can unlock other raids (because everything in this game is locked behind MSQ progression). When levelling a combat job between lvl 50 and 60, the daily AR provides decent XP along with Pvp, levelling and MSQ. There is not much else to do at those levels once you’ve done the story.

You can still queue for the raid you want.

[SigmarrIrenesch]

why remove a roulette for lvl 50-60 players and players that have not gotten to the point where they can unlock other raids because everything in this game is locked behind MSQ progression. When levelling a combat job between lvl 50 and 60, the daily AR provides decent XP along with Pvp, levelling and MSQ.

Not having access to one roulette for leveling until later wouldn't hurt the lv50-60 experience too much since you level up very fast while progressing through the game normally anyway.

You can still queue for the raid you want.

Why have roulettes at all since we can all queue for the duties we want?

You can make a similar argument with normal raids. It’s mostly fist of the father (alex).

Getting Alexander raids on Normal roulette is not nearly as dominant as getting Crystal Tower on Alliance. It feels more random since you get raids from all expansions instead of just one of the first two from ARR days in a row, sometimes even a week in a row.

[Toutatis]

Not having access to one roulette for leveling until later wouldn't hurt the lv50-60 experience too much since you level up very fast while progressing through the game normally anyway.

That works for the first few jobs only. Once done with the story, there isn’t much to level up a job at those levels.

Why have roulettes at all since we can all queue for the duties we want?

Roulette is there to fill groups that need filling. If you want a specific raid, just queue for it. You will also force the roulette to find you teammates.

Some raids take longer to fill than others as less people have them unlocked and some pop a lot more rarely not only because of fewer unlocks but also because nobody needs to do them. Atm we mostly see ARR and EW raids (got Thaleia 3xnights in a row). EW because players who joined during that expansion have probably unlocked those while playing EW and because people still queue them for the tokens.

For a new player starting today, they have a long way to go before reaching the end of EW and unlocking optional raids along the way may not be a priority. Unlocking all the optional raids takes time (stories + queue + raid time). I also know several players who didn’t know there were other alliance raids until they were told about as SE has put the quest givers in the middle of nowhere, requiring the player to come back to an area after the MSQ is done with that area. There are lots of blue markers and nothing to indicate which ones are Alliance raids.

[kaynide]

Why have roulettes at all since we can all queue for the duties we want?

The entire point of the roulette is that you absolutely, entirely, 100%, completely forfeit your right to choice in where you go ito fill in spots wherever they may be needed, which just happens to be the CT series more often than not. In exchange you get the massive XP buff. You want the buff, you go where you go.

[Supersnow845]

The entire point of the roulette is that you absolutely, entirely, 100%, completely forfeit your right to choice in where you go ito fill in spots wherever they may be needed, which just happens to be the CT series more often than not. In exchange you get the massive XP buff. You want the buff, you go where you go.

The problem isn’t the fact that the roulette can pop crystal tower

The problem is the fact that the game so overwhelmingly biased CT with every single benefit possible that it actually deprives the roulette of people to pop the other raids then people get sick of CT and deprive the queue further of people who would pop the higher raids and creates a self fulfilling cycle

First and foremost the roulette is for popping queues for people queuing directly and the alliance raid roulette fails utterly at that

[kaynide]

The problem isn’t the fact that the roulette can pop crystal tower

The problem is the fact that the game so overwhelmingly biased CT with every single benefit possible that it actually deprives the roulette of people to pop the other raids then people get sick of CT and deprive the queue further of people who would pop the higher raids and creates a self fulfilling cycle

First and foremost the roulette is for popping queues for people queuing directly and the alliance raid roulette fails utterly at that

But you can still get the other raids if you queue specifically for them. I’ve never had it take longer than 10ish minutes during evening hours to get any specific roulette; specifically was doing Nier for glams.

[PyurBlue]

The entire point of the roulette is that you absolutely, entirely, 100%, completely forfeit your right to choice in where you go ito fill in spots wherever they may be needed, which just happens to be the CT series more often than not. In exchange you get the massive XP buff. You want the buff, you go where you go.

No one plays the game to fill queues though. The game should be fun to play and ideally players should be able to participate in content that they enjoy even if they're also trying to get XP. It's not a bad thing that people want choice in how they level. That is just how things should be and I don't understand why people want to argue against a good thing. Also remember that roulettes do give you choice because there is more than one roulette. If filling queues was all that mattered there would only be one roulette and you'd not actually have any choice. It's not like it can't be done since mentor roulette is that roulette. More roulette options is consistent with how the game works already. It's not something new.

[kaynide]

No one plays the game to fill queues though. The game should be fun to play and ideally players should be able to participate in content that they enjoy even if they're also trying to get XP. It's not a bad thing that people want choice in how they level. That is just how things should be and I don't understand why people want to argue against a good thing. Also remember that roulettes do give you choice because there is more than one roulette. If filling queues was all that mattered there would only be one roulette and you'd not actually have any choice. It's not like it can't be done since mentor roulette is that roulette. More roulette options is consistent with how the game works already. It's not something new.

Your personal reasons for playing are not relevant for the purpose of Roulette. It literally exists to encourage more people to do the content to help new players have enough bodies to progress their game. That's it, full stop. The fat XP bonus is there for your inconvenience.

Multiple types of roulettes exist because different types of content with (typically) very different expectations and technical requirements exist. IE if there was only 1 roulette, 4 man dungeons would constantly run and you'd never get 24 people to do raids.

[Avidria]

No one plays the game to fill queues though. The game should be fun to play and ideally players should be able to participate in content that they enjoy even if they're also trying to get XP. It's not a bad thing that people want choice in how they level. That is just how things should be and I don't understand why people want to argue against a good thing. Also remember that roulettes do give you choice because there is more than one roulette. If filling queues was all that mattered there would only be one roulette and you'd not actually have any choice. It's not like it can't be done since mentor roulette is that roulette. More roulette options is consistent with how the game works already. It's not something new.

I'd just like to throw out there that CT series raids also had 1-3 hour queues before they added alliance roulette. Like it probably wouldnt go back to being quite that bad if it got kicked out of the roulette, given that it is required, but like... it also used to take forever and a day to do because nobody was doing it.

And like personally i never queue for msq roulette because i dont want to deal with the cutscenes in the other dungeons there so i at least would simply continue to not do so if they moved CT into that roulette instead.