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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malanior View Post
    I'm just saying that it is an English forum where there are different opinions, some will like it more or less, not everyone has to think like you. good night.

    Asking for a translation is asking for servers for Spain and a localization team... and those resources could be used to improve pve content
    Excuse me, but what servers? Are you aware that the only difference between servers is the region they're physically in? Do you see any french or german worlds in the EU data centers, by chance, or any data center being locked for players from another region? If they ever feel the need to add more servers, everyone will be able to benefit from them. Just as it has been happening since forever when new ones have been added due to an increase of the playerbase.

    And about the resources, if SE thinks that the game can really benefit from supporting other languages that will mean that they'll see some potential to increase their earnings. Opening the game to a broader playerbase means that the game can effectively increase its profits, which in turn means that they would be able to dedicate more resources to the "PvE content" than they already do now. Every single one of the other big MMOs out there currently offer a Spanish localization, and I doubt that they're doing it at a loss. Moreover, every other Squaresoft and Square Enix game has provided a Spanish localization for almost 30 years.

    As I said in an earlier post, from what was said in the last EU fanfest it seems that the team is pretty open to possibly doing a Spanish localization. If this thread helps them see that there's actually a demand for such feature, it's the right thing to voice it. Just as other kind of feedback and requests are always posted on these very same forums. I don't know why you felt the need to defend the people adding nothing to the discussion, like the one that those that you quoted were replying to.
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  2. #322
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Excuse me, but what servers? Are you aware that the only difference between servers is the region they're physically in? Do you see any french or german worlds in the EU data centers, by chance, or any data center being locked for players from another region? If they ever feel the need to add more servers, everyone will be able to benefit from them. Just as it has been happening since forever when new ones have been added due to an increase of the playerbase.

    And about the resources, if SE thinks that the game can really benefit from supporting other languages that will mean that they'll see some potential to increase their earnings. Opening the game to a broader playerbase means that the game can effectively increase its profits, which in turn means that they would be able to dedicate more resources to the "PvE content" than they already do now. Every single one of the other big MMOs out there currently offer a Spanish localization, and I doubt that they're doing it at a loss. Moreover, every other Squaresoft and Square Enix game has provided a Spanish localization for almost 30 years.

    As I said in an earlier post, from what was said in the last EU fanfest it seems that the team is pretty open to possibly doing a Spanish localization. If this thread helps them see that there's actually a demand for such feature, it's the right thing to voice it. Just as other kind of feedback and requests are always posted on these very same forums. I don't know why you felt the need to defend the people adding nothing to the discussion, like the one that those that you quoted were replying to.
    This pretty much, a translation won't take resources from anything as it's just more people comming into the game and paying a suscription.
    Also who talked about servers? There's no need to add servers and we're not asking for any kind of support aside from a text translation. We even said that we don't want any other kind of support, not GM or anything else, just text translation.
    But yeah, thanks for the support.
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    Last edited by MorfineCeres18; 05-07-2024 at 07:40 AM.

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    Yes please, SE give me FFXIV in Spanish
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    I would love the option of text in spanish! Please Square Enix!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Excuse me, but what servers? Are you aware that the only difference between servers is the region they're physically in? Do you see any french or german worlds in the EU data centers, by chance, or any data center being locked for players from another region? If they ever feel the need to add more servers, everyone will be able to benefit from them. Just as it has been happening since forever when new ones have been added due to an increase of the playerbase.

    And about the resources, if SE thinks that the game can really benefit from supporting other languages that will mean that they'll see some potential to increase their earnings. Opening the game to a broader playerbase means that the game can effectively increase its profits, which in turn means that they would be able to dedicate more resources to the "PvE content" than they already do now. Every single one of the other big MMOs out there currently offer a Spanish localization, and I doubt that they're doing it at a loss. Moreover, every other Squaresoft and Square Enix game has provided a Spanish localization for almost 30 years.

    As I said in an earlier post, from what was said in the last EU fanfest it seems that the team is pretty open to possibly doing a Spanish localization. If this thread helps them see that there's actually a demand for such feature, it's the right thing to voice it. Just as other kind of feedback and requests are always posted on these very same forums. I don't know why you felt the need to defend the people adding nothing to the discussion, like the one that those that you quoted were replying to.
    I believe in freedom of expression, it is a forum, if people don't want it, we have to respect it. I have already said that to put a new language would be to invest money, if you want to think that the sky is green, you have the right to do so.
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    We respect all opinions, it is logical that there are people who think differently, although it does not affect them in any way if they translate it into another language, but I do not think that translating some texts into Spanish is a great investment for the company but even if it were, the benefit of the entry of many Spanish-speaking players would turn that investment into greater benefits and with it more money to implement improvements in the game
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    I don't speak Spanish, but my better half does. Spanish is a major language; in Europe, large parts of North and South America, and also in the Pacific. It would need a few more headcount in the translation team, but the money coming in from increased subs might well pay for that. Having En/Es/Fr/De/Jp also means one more to the core set of languages that other European customers (like Italian, or Portuguese, or some around the Fr/Es border in the Pyrenees) might be polyglot in.

    And of course that rather large and wonderful country in North America, Canada's deuxième sous-sol so to say, exists too. So I now actually wonder if Soken speaks Spanish, not as a translator of course, but as a important and beloved part of the company.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 05-07-2024 at 06:04 PM.

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    It would be so great to have one of our favorite games available in Spanish, allowing us to understand everything perfectly and enabling everyone who can’t or won’t play unless the game is in Spanish to join in (because yes, it does require an effort, which varies for each individual).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I don't speak Spanish, but my better half does. Spanish is a major language; in Europe, large parts of North and South America, and also in the Pacific. It would need a few more headcount in the translation team, but the money coming in from increased subs might well pay for that. Having En/Es/Fr/De/Jp also means one more to the core set of languages that other European customers (like Italian, or Portuguese, or some around the Fr/Es border in the Pyrenees) might be polyglot in.

    And of course that rather large and wonderful country in North America, Canada's deuxième sous-sol so to say, exists too. So I now actually wonder if Soken speaks Spanish, not as a translator of course, but as a important and beloved part of the company.
    Yeah, we have more potential players than actual players because of the translation.

    It would open the door for a lot of new people, and more players = more money to create more content
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  10. #330
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malanior View Post
    I believe in freedom of expression, it is a forum, if people don't want it, we have to respect it. I have already said that to put a new language would be to invest money, if you want to think that the sky is green, you have the right to do so.
    Freedom of expression also includes people being able to call someone out if they think that their "opinion" adds nothing of value to a discussion, and saying the reasons as of why it's inherently toxic and ignorant, as was the case (someone telling people to "just play in English", willingly ignoring the point of there being people that can't actually understand said language, and why, as was pointed out by the people that you quoted). This is a forum, not "Malanior and friends' chupipandi", to use your own words. Yes, you were the one actually seemingly trying to make other people shut up. So much for "freedom of expression"...

    And yeah, they would need to invest money, but they would do it for a return. Re-read what you're quoting, since that's not an opinion. That's a description of how a business works. In the end this is a decision that SE has to make, and they'll make it by taking into account their potential profit margins. Just like they did when they decided to provide Spanish support for their other games for almost 3 decades. Moreover, many other MMOs can do it without it affecting the amount of content that they release, at all, including all the most successful ones (WoW, ESO, GW2, Warframe, BDO, EVE, Lost Ark, Albion...). Or have EVE and ESO changed for the worse due to the addition of Spanish support two years ago, for example? Do you think that they did it out of the kindness of their hearts, or maybe they saw the possibility that by increasing the reach of their games their profits would also increase?

    In other words, an investment in localization doesn't mean that the game will suffer due to it, but quite the opposite. At least if the people making the call do their homework. But for that to happen, the community has to remind them that the demand is there. And, considering that we're talking about the Spanish language (which is spoken in Spain, Central and Southern America, as well as several other places, including parts of the US), it is.

    You're in your right to not wanting something. But that doesn't mean that you're right in regards to the reasons for not wanting it.
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